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Hand Held Speed Gun: Should Ticket be Issued On the Spot?

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Q.

If the police are using a hand held gun, do they need to pull you over at the time to issue you a ticket, or can they do it subsequently?

(D.U, 12 July 2009)

A.

Over the last few years, hand-held speed guns have received a pretty bad reputation for giving false readings and for being generally inaccurate and easily subverted with different tactics - each with a varying degree of success. There are so many different things that are alleged to interfere with the hand-held radar guns that there are whole internet sites devoted to them and whether they actually work or not falls into the category of urban myth.

However despite all the bad press often aimed at hand-held speed radars, they remain very popular with some local police forces who are keen to be seen using the 'hairdryer' device while standing at the side of the road.

With an average range of 600 meters, the police officers using the radar device will need to be pretty close to any passing car to take a reading - and the further away they are, the more the reading can be interfered with by different elements such as the wind speeds and road conditions. The optimum distance is thought to be around 300 meters away, so the officers will stand as close to the road they are monitoring that it is safe to do so. Generally this means that unlike some traffic cameras, if you are measured by a police radar gun it is likely that you will know it has happened.

As part of the reason for using these radar guns is to show motorists on that stretch of road that their speed is being monitored, if it is safe to stop someone who has been caught speeding and issue a Fixed Penalty Notice on the spot, then the police will usually choose this option. However it is always possible that if it is dangerous to other road users or police officers to stop an offending vehicle at the roadside, than a summons can be issued to the address of the registered keeper after the event. Because the preference is a fixed penalty, in most cases, if you aren't stopped on the spot then you're probably okay. It's not a certainty though, so if you think you might have been speeding, you'll just have to wait it out.

If you do receive a summons it will be party to the usual time restraints, and if the registered keeper or driver (if different) wish to contend the ticket or any of the details on it, then they can do so following the usual route detailed on the back of the NIP.

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Do the police have to show you the radar gun at the side of the road to show you what speed they claim you were doing?
Mcv2875 - 24-Apr-17 @ 8:55 AM
hi i was following a car on a 30 mph speed limit road that went into a 40 mph road as the car in front sped up so did i but then he hit his breaks so i slowed down only just seeing a police officer pull the car in front over ,then waved for me to follow, they had clocked him at 48 issued him a ticket and sent himon his way the police then said i was speeding at 48 ? how can they know this as the car in front had been pull with this reading not me ? do the hand held divice clock more than one reading at once ???
joney - 20-Apr-17 @ 8:57 PM
JD91 - Your Question:
Hi, I was working in London a few weeks ago and was clocked going 58mph in a 30mph! :( the horrible thing was I just came off a national speed limit duel carriageway over a roundabout onto another dual carriageway where the speed limit dropped to 30mph. The police officer clocked me at that speed and walked into the middle of the road to pull me over. the officer did not issue me with any paperwork at all, told me that he caught me, showed me his radar gun with the speed, took my license to take details and sent me on my way. It's been 4 weeks to the day now and haven't received a letter through the post. I was expecting a letter within a couple of weeks requestin me to attend court. Not heard anything yet, not sure where I stand, also as the officer didn't give me any paper work.thanks in advance.

Our Response:
The police have up to 6 mothns in which to initiate further action after stopping you for an offence like this. Looks like you may have to wait a while longer before assuming you may not be subject to further action.
NoPenaltyPoints - 16-Mar-17 @ 12:14 PM
Hi, i was working in London a few weeks ago and was clocked going 58mph in a 30mph! :( the horrible thing was i just came off a national speed limit duel carriageway over a roundabout onto another dual carriageway where the speed limit dropped to 30mph. The police officer clocked me at that speed and walked into the middle of the road to pull me over. the officer did not issue me with any paperwork at all, told me that he caught me, showed me his radar gun with the speed, took my license to take details and sent me on my way. It's been 4 weeks to the day now and haven't received a letter through the post. I was expecting a letter within a couple of weeks requestin me to attend court. Not heard anything yet, not sure where i stand, also as the officer didn't give me any paper work. thanks in advance..
JD91 - 14-Mar-17 @ 3:26 PM
I was issues with a nip dated 21/10/16 but the only notice I received was a final notice dated 15/12/16. Nothing else prior to this. Can I contest it? Also the junction they said I was speeding on changes from 30mph to 40mph. They said I was in a 30 zone doing 47 so I can't request to do a speed awareness course. The speed camera is in fact in the 40 zone but they wouldn't hear me out when I called to question it. I sent an email regarding this over 2 weeks ago and I have had no response. Just been told to Waite for a response although they haven't even acknowledged receiving my email. What is the best course of action for me to take? If In fact they used a hand held device would I be entitled to know exactly where they were standing? And could it be proved if I had to take the matter to court?
Trixi - 23-Jan-17 @ 6:20 PM
I was issued with a ticket on the 16/07/2016 for speeding. I have heard nothing from the police until now, after nearly six months. My question is that is there a time limit in which they need to contact me ?
Sanna - 16-Jan-17 @ 6:53 PM
I was caught speeding at the end of August 2016 by a ANPR with a speed gun I was doing 72 in a 50 once he pulled me over he asked for my licence so I provided it. After he returned I told him I had recently changed address and I work in the transport industry and was waiting on a driver course relevant to work where I need to provide my pink license (which I'd already paid for the course)I told him I'd moved in the last week and that I was going to change address as soon as I had done my course he noted my new address down and I have proof of this.I asked the officer what I should do in the meantime with the green ticket he provided to me and he replied. To wait for a letter in the post. At the beginning of January 2017 I received a court summons for the speeding offence and the next day a plea letter both dated sent on 30th December 2016 so I called the court before I had received a plea and asked why I'd been summoned they said they sent a plea letter which I had not received.They then said the letter was sent to my old address do I stand any chance of winning if I contest?
Chris - 13-Jan-17 @ 3:47 PM
Shakeel - Your Question:
Hi,I just want to know if I'm driving on the road where is not speed limit signs at all and a policeman with hand-held gun stopped me as he told me that I was driving at 44mph as speed limit was 30mph.He said do you know what's the speed limit I said may be 40mph then he said it's 30.and shows me him with 44mph with range 444.There was two cars and me and other,as signal got green,we were driving parallel and after few yards this road became single lane road,so that's why I drove faster to over take car on my left side.And one more thing he didn't give me any notice and said I will receive in post.why he didn't give me at spot?I have 2-3 reasons to contest this notice if they gonna issue me this.1-what's the lagality I can use if there was no any speed limit signs at all throughout the road?2-if I overtook car on my left just because it there was emerging 2 roads to 1.can I overtake and exceed my limit in this case?3-when he took my speed I believe there were 2 cars myself and my left side car were parallel.and policeman was standing on left side towards other side of other car not my side

Our Response:
These are all things that you should know from studying the highway code when you took your driving test. A road with a regular street lamp system is 30 mph and does not need to display speed limit signs. You cannot speed up to overtake where two lanes merge... you should slow down if it's a clear that another car is in the lane. The police do not have to offer a fixed penalty on the spot.
NoPenaltyPoints - 9-Jan-17 @ 12:15 PM
Hi,I just want to know if I'm driving on the road where is not speed limit signs at all and a policeman with hand-held gun stopped me as he told me that I was driving at 44mph as speed limit was 30mph. He said do you know what's the speed limit I said may be 40mph then he said it's 30.and shows me him with 44mph with range 444. There was two cars and me and other,as signal got green,we were driving parallel and after few yards this road became single lane road,so that's why I drove faster to over take car on my left side. And one more thing he didn't give me any notice and said I will receive in post.why he didn't give me at spot? I have 2-3 reasons to contest this notice if they gonna issue me this. 1-what's the lagality I can use if there was no any speed limit signs at all throughout the road? 2-if I overtook car on my left just because it there was emerging 2 roads to 1.can I overtake and exceed my limit in this case? 3-when he took my speed I believe there were 2 cars myself and my left side car were parallel.and policeman was standingon left side towards other side of other car not my side
Shakeel - 8-Jan-17 @ 4:56 AM
Hi,I just want to know if I'm driving on the road where is not speed limit signs at all and a policeman with hand-held gun stopped me as he told me that I was driving at 44mph as speed limit was 30mph. He said do you know what's the speed limit I said may be 40mph then he said it's 30.and shows me him with 44mph with range 444. There was two cars and me and other,as signal got green,we were driving parallel and after few yards this road became single lane road,so that's why I drove faster to over take car on my left side. And one more thing he didn't give me any notice and said I will receive in post.why he didn't give me at spot? I have 2-3 reasons to contest this notice if they gonna issue me this. 1-what's the lagality I can use if there was no any speed limit signs at all throughout the road? 2-if I overtook car on my left just because it there was emerging 2 roads to 1.can I overtake and exceed my limit in this case? 3-when he took my speed I believe there were 2 cars myself and my left side car were parallel.and policeman was standingon left side towards other side of other car not my side
Shakeel - 7-Jan-17 @ 11:33 PM
Hi,I just want to know if I'm driving on the road where is not speed limit signs at all and a policeman with hand-held gun stopped me as he told me that I was driving at 44mph as speed limit was 30mph. He said do you know what's the speed limit I said may be 40mph then he said it's 30.and shows me him with 44mph with range 444. There was two cars and me and other,as signal got green,we were driving parallel and after few yards this road became single lane road,so that's why I drove faster to over take car on my left side. And one more thing he didn't give me any notice and said I will receive in post.why he didn't give me at spot? I have 2-3 reasons to contest this notice if they gonna issue me this. 1-what's the lagality I can use if there was no any speed limit signs at all throughout the road? 2-if I overtook car on my left just because it there was emerging 2 roads to 1.can I overtake and exceed my limit in this case? 3-when he took my speed I believe there were 2 cars myself and my left side car were parallel.and policeman was standingon left side towards other side of other car not my side
Shakeel - 7-Jan-17 @ 5:56 PM
chris.t - Your Question:
Got caught doin 37 in a 30 zone but there was no cameras or anybody in view with a speed gun, this was on the 4/11/16 only just got ticket through post at work 1/12/16 as it was work van of which they have owned since april 2016do I need to pay the fine / get the points when it comes back to me at my home address as it was out of the 14days when work got it plus who ever had the gun was not in site at the roadside

Our Response:
No the 14 day rule does not apply as you are not the registered keeper. You can still be prosecuted for speeding even if you did not spot the camera, or it was hidden from you view. The likely penalty will be 3 points plus £100 or the offer of a speed awareness course.
NoPenaltyPoints - 6-Dec-16 @ 10:11 AM
got caught doin 37 in a 30 zone but there was no cameras or anybody in view with a speed gun, this was on the 4/11/16 only just got ticket through post at work 1/12/16 as it was work van of which they have owned since april 2016 do i need to pay the fine / get the points when it comes back to me at my home address as it was out of the 14days when work got it plus who ever had the gun was not in site at the roadside
chris.t - 3-Dec-16 @ 1:39 AM
I was pulled over by a police officer for doing 42 in a 30 zone. This was on 02/11/2016. They have only just sent me an offer of a fixed penalty dated 23/11/2016. Does this still stand or can I dispute the penalty?
R41nos - 28-Nov-16 @ 8:20 PM
Joey - Your Question:
I have received a single justice procedure notice saying I have 21days to plead guilty or not but the offence took place on 6th of may 5months ago why have I only received the notice now is this acceptable?

Our Response:
Were you stopped at the time of the offence? If so you may have been sent a fixed penalty notice in the post but perhaps you never received it? If not, there's a possibility an NIP was issued and you did not respond or did not receive it.
NoPenaltyPoints - 2-Nov-16 @ 12:12 PM
I have received a single justice procedure notice saying I have 21days to plead guilty or not but the offence took place on 6th of may 5months ago why have I only received the notice now is this acceptable?
Joey - 1-Nov-16 @ 8:08 PM
Chowny - Your Question:
Hi guysI just joined the main Folkestone to Hastings road in Rye from a roundabout I didn't notice any speed signs or speed camera signs. It was a clear road so just carried on my way without my head in my speedo. The next thing I know was I noticed a copper with a speed gun I had a look at my speedo and it was just under 40. I carried on a few miles before I could Google map the road and I saw it was a 30. Should I of been pulled over ? Also I passed no signs warning of speed cameras in the area.

Our Response:
Maybe you will receive an NIP in the post. If you haven't heard within 14 days, your are probably not going to be penalised. There are no rules that suggest warning signs must be erected for temporay/mobile speed cameras.
NoPenaltyPoints - 1-Nov-16 @ 2:04 PM
Hi guys I just joined the main Folkestone to Hastings road in Rye from a roundabout I didn't notice any speed signs or speed camera signs. It was a clear road so just carried on my way without my head in my speedo. The next thing I know was I noticed a copper with a speed gun I had a look at my speedo and it was just under 40 . I carried on a few miles before I could Google map the road and I saw it was a 30. Should I of been pulled over ? . Also I passed no signs warning of speed cameras in the area.
Chowny - 31-Oct-16 @ 12:10 PM
I was pulled over and was asked: "License and registration", which I gave to him with no problem but still confused on why I was being pulled over, since he was behind me for some time (half a block and half-way where I was alleged to be clocked).Now when he came back and then asked me: "Do you know why I'm pulling you over?" and this again was asked by possibly by one of the youngest and 'fresh-faced' cop I have ever seen. I told him "No" and he proceeding by telling me that I was doing 41 MPH in an area that is marked 25.I would love to believe that I was going that fast but God as my only witness I wasn't.I had another gentleman in my car and it was fairly late but as an adult, who wasn't drinking or doing anything illegal with all of my credentials being intact and legit.I live in Pennsylvania and they are so strict with the inspection and emission testing that I just would receive back-to-back tickets (Tuesday one day and the next day, Wednesday) for my car not being inspected ($115.00 each).I just got the car inspected 2 days prior to being pulled over and would have so much work done totally close to $2,500 from everything from engine work, brakes, battery and you name it I got it done.I never dreamed of getting pulled over after speeding all this money I sure didn't have or have at this moment.It's October and it has been rumored that there is a 'quota' that the men and ladies that protect and serve us have to meet.Did I fall into one of these traps or am I just dealing with being at the wrong place at the wrong time?The ironic part of all of this was how I got pulled over 45 minutes later and this time for my back-light being out and the first officer didn't tell me of this misfortune.I wasn't ticketed and let go, thank God but I was told that I shouldn't think there is a quota for why I'm being stopped and then advised about how to handle my ticket.I was told to go to court and talk personally to the officer that gave me the speeding ticket.This officer told me that I should plead with the officer about not the financial part but as far as the 'points' that I would receive.This ticket that I received was $175.00 and the officer told me that I had 10 days to respond or they would take my license and there would be a warrant issued.This seemed like a Halloween nightmare coming true but it actually happened and I don't want to be the one guy to talk about DWB (Driving while Black) but I'm Black and my passenger was Black.Was I also racially profiled? I do feel that he might have stopped me for my back-light being out (which he never told me) and assumed that there was something greater in store, which it wasn't, insurance, license, registration, seat-belt and inspection was on point. I just can't remember if he asked me after I gave him my information or when he came back from his squad car but it was awful all around. He pulled me over and within seconds there was another cop ca
Confused - 30-Oct-16 @ 11:39 PM
Hi I was pulled over for speeding with a hand held gun and I'm pretty sure I was behind a car when they done it. How can they get an accurate reading from this . Also is there a time scale for when they are supposed to send the fine through, Andy
Andy - 22-Oct-16 @ 2:21 PM
If you drive past a normal police car (travelling the other way) and you are over the speed limit, is it possible for them to send you a NIP in the post, even if they don't have cameras on board?
S - 19-Oct-16 @ 1:10 PM
Aa1 - Your Question:
Ok today I was driving aware that they were there because I dropped of my kid at school , gaurdless aways trying my hardest careful I drove back keeping to the spoed limit, the police had a hand speed gun and as I got closer it was pinted straight at me double checked my speed was just below fourty but the way he was holding it it felt like I was speeding, I was the only one driving 9.05 am. Am I going to get a ticket?

Our Response:
If you were not speeding (we hope you were actually in a 40mph zone!), you won't get a ticket...it's that simple :-)Try not to read too much into the way the policeman pointed his camera at you.
NoPenaltyPoints - 11-Oct-16 @ 11:20 AM
Ok today i was driving aware that they were there because i dropped of my kid at school ,gaurdless awaystrying my hardest careful i drove back keeping to the spoed limit,the police had a hand speed gunand as i gotcloserit was pinted straight at me double checked myspeed was just below fourty but the way he was holding itit felt like i was speeding, i was the only one driving 9.05 am . Am i going to get a ticket?
Aa1 - 10-Oct-16 @ 12:50 AM
Hi folks I was clocked going a little over the speed limit today by a hand held speed gun but not by the police.. This was a "traffic manager" on foot no vehicle or clear signs, stood against a lamppost.. what is a traffic manager?? And can I be prosecuted as I wasn't stopped!! By the plastic Bobby!
Shaunb - 6-Oct-16 @ 6:06 PM
Hi' guys today was 2/ October 2016 double demerit points, i drove all they way up to traffic light at the exact same speed 60 km/h and when the light turns green i speed up up to 70 or 75, when i saw tow police officer using Mobile camera or gun whatever the name is.... than i slow down after when i arrived almost at the same spot the don't even lookin at me or pulled me over, can any one plz tell are they gonna send me mail or not?
Jan - 2-Oct-16 @ 12:02 PM
Sammie - Your Question:
Hi I was driving my company car the other day and I was caught speeding with a speedo gun thing and the lady pulled me over but let me go with out a ticket? Does that mean she has let me off or will one come in the mail?

Our Response:
No the police officer does not have to issue a tissue on the spot. You can still expect tthe possibility ofhearing through the post.
NoPenaltyPoints - 9-Sep-16 @ 11:31 AM
Hi I was driving my company car the other day and I was caught speeding with a speedo gun thing and the lady pulled me over but let me go with out a ticket? Does that mean she has let me off or will one come in the mail?
Sammie - 8-Sep-16 @ 8:45 AM
I was travelling northbound on the M1 on Saturday 3rd September and spotted a police land rover sitting on the top right hand corner (ie the southbound side) of the bridge at Scratchwood services, using a speedgun (apparently it looked like an FG21-P by someone I spoke to later). The solitary policeman in the car seemed to be facing his gun at northbound traffic. This seemed a bit surprising, given the angle of his position and the distance he was from the carriageway.Has anyone experienced this before?Isn't sitting at such an angle prone to false readings?(PS:It may seem odd that I have these details but a colleague I met up with at Scratchwood was travelling southbound and we subsequently swapped stories).
Tezthefirst - 5-Sep-16 @ 5:03 PM
Hi, last week I was stopped by officers using a speed gun and told that I was speeding, but on this occasion I would receive a warning and no further action would be taken. Today I have received a letter asking for driver details, shouldn't they have issued the ticket at the time ? And can they still take it further despite there office telling me it was just a warning ?
Rach - 18-Aug-16 @ 11:59 AM
Sarbjit - Your Question:
Hi, guys, 2 weeks ago I got pulled over by two police officers, they said I was doing 50mph on a 30mph zone, The only time I might have gone a bit fast was when l overtook a bus and then slowed down to 30mph. The issued me a ticket which said offence under consideration. The police officer said they clocked me on there speed gun and pointed at the speed gun the other officer had, I looked at it, but the officer never showed me the speed clocked on the speed gun, this made me suspicious that they never clocked me, especially when they said I was doing bang on 50 mph not 46 or 52 eg. Please can anyone tell me if they have to by law show you prove of what speed I was found doing ?

Our Response:
No they do not have to show you proof unless it goes to court in which case you/your solicitor can ask theevidence to be produced in court.
NoPenaltyPoints - 5-Aug-16 @ 2:27 PM
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