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Hand Held Speed Gun: Should Ticket be Issued On the Spot?

By: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 17 Jan 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
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Q.

If the police are using a hand held gun, do they need to pull you over at the time to issue you a ticket, or can they do it subsequently?

(D.U, 12 July 2009)

A.

Over the last few years, hand-held speed guns have received a pretty bad reputation for giving false readings and for being generally inaccurate and easily subverted with different tactics - each with a varying degree of success. There are so many different things that are alleged to interfere with the hand-held radar guns that there are whole internet sites devoted to them and whether they actually work or not falls into the category of urban myth.

However despite all the bad press often aimed at hand-held speed radars, they remain very popular with some local police forces who are keen to be seen using the 'hairdryer' device while standing at the side of the road.

With an average range of 600 meters, the police officers using the radar device will need to be pretty close to any passing car to take a reading - and the further away they are, the more the reading can be interfered with by different elements such as the wind speeds and road conditions. The optimum distance is thought to be around 300 meters away, so the officers will stand as close to the road they are monitoring that it is safe to do so. Generally this means that unlike some traffic cameras, if you are measured by a police radar gun it is likely that you will know it has happened.

As part of the reason for using these radar guns is to show motorists on that stretch of road that their speed is being monitored, if it is safe to stop someone who has been caught speeding and issue a Fixed Penalty Notice on the spot, then the police will usually choose this option. However it is always possible that if it is dangerous to other road users or police officers to stop an offending vehicle at the roadside, than a summons can be issued to the address of the registered keeper after the event. Because the preference is a fixed penalty, in most cases, if you aren't stopped on the spot then you're probably okay. It's not a certainty though, so if you think you might have been speeding, you'll just have to wait it out.

If you do receive a summons it will be party to the usual time restraints, and if the registered keeper or driver (if different) wish to contend the ticket or any of the details on it, then they can do so following the usual route detailed on the back of the NIP.

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I was caught speeding on the first of January. I was pulled over on the motorway but I am yet to have received any documentation of any kind. How long am I likely to be waiting, or is there someone I should contact?
Ukdriver200 - 17-Jan-18 @ 10:01 PM
Dipz - Your Question:
Hi. I am pretty sure I was caught speeding using a speed gun. Was stupidly doing over 70 on a 40 dual carriageway. I did see them an reduced the speed. All they did was look over at me and point. Didnt ask me to pull over and wasnt pulled over further down by another car. Will I get a letter in the post as I have heard they can only issue you a ticket if they pull you over. There were no camera’s held by another officer.

Our Response:
This will depend on the type of camera in use - if it was recording speed and registration numbers, you'll receive an NIP within 14 days (longer if you are not the registered keeper of the vehicle). You can expect a court summons for travelling at 70mph in a 40 zone.
NoPenaltyPoints - 16-Jan-18 @ 12:58 PM
Hi. I am pretty sure I was caught speeding using a speed gun. Was stupidly doing over 70 on a 40 dual carriageway. I did see them an reduced the speed. All they did was look over at me and point. Didnt ask me to pull over and wasnt pulled over further down by another car. Will I get a letter in the post as I have heard they can only issue you a ticket if they pull you over. There were no camera’s held by another officer.
Dipz - 13-Jan-18 @ 3:01 PM
Hi , I was sent a NIP on 22/Nov for exceeding 30mph on North Orbital way Denham. my speed is 49. as I didn't see any police with speed gun on the way, I am not sure exactly the point then checked. but I assumed it may be after the traffic lights and after the Denham bridgh (railway). but before the traffic light there is a speed camera, I am pretti sure I was under 30mph. so after the signal there is no sign of 30limits post or on the road. only sign is 50mph. so as per the NIP I send my details, becuase there is a option for awareness course too. but now I received a fixed penalty there is no course. I assumed They had checked the speed just before the 50mph sign post. is there any point to challange this? becuase there is no sign of 30 mph other than 50mph ?
Galu - 20-Dec-17 @ 12:24 PM
I did an awareness course yesterday. Takingthe numberthere,and the number of courses,The venue must be making near £20k a week!! A lot of revenue to be had ! And they say it's not for the money?! Anyway,I learned that the Police canadopt a 'no tolerance ' limit,by the way they set the cameras up??
Mark - 12-Dec-17 @ 2:21 PM
Rob - Your Question:
Hi I was driving home from Dorset on the a31 it's a 70 speed limit I pulled out to over take someone and was probably doing 75ish, when under a bridge with a police car parked up on it. All its windows looked closed but think I sore a flash. Should I expect a ticket?

Our Response:
We don't know! If it was a speed camera maybe...
If you are the registered keeper of the vehicle and have not changed address or vehicle in the past few months, you'll know within 14 days.
NoPenaltyPoints - 29-Nov-17 @ 11:03 AM
Hi I was driving home from Dorset on the a31 it's a 70 speed limit I pulled out to over take someone and was probably doing 75ish, when under a bridge with a police car parked up on it.. All its windows looked closed but think I sore a flash.. Should I expect a ticket?
Rob - 28-Nov-17 @ 2:23 PM
Hi Just got a ticket in the post, first offence in 19 years. Was on a 60, country lane, speed sign then reduces to 30. Caught about 10 m after the change by a man with a gunat 36. Seems a bit harsh as I was clearly slowing down, what is expected slam the brakes on when the sign appears to reduce from 60 straight to 30?
NBM - 17-Nov-17 @ 7:39 PM
Hi I was driving on a duel carriageway at 1am where the speed limit goes down to 50. Police pulled out of the petrol station where they where sitting and drove out behind me when I passed and pulled me over 200 meters down the road. The radar gun said 80 and was told that they would recommend a safety awareness course but cant say what I will get as its out of there hands. Its my first offence so he said they may listen to what he had to say but what are the chance of getting a ban as after looking on the internet that looks like the most likely outcome.
Harpo - 15-Nov-17 @ 12:21 PM
Sam- Your Question:
Hi, I eve been caught doing 101 instead of 60mph by policeman and gave me notice and said to me not to do anything till I hear from them, however now its been 5 months and still haven't heard anything.is anything I can do to see if I have got away with it or not.

Our Response:
the police have up to 6 months in which to initiate further action. It's unlikely you'll have "got away with it". It may be worth contacting the police to see if they have a court date etc .
NoPenaltyPoints - 14-Nov-17 @ 3:10 PM
Hi, I eve been caught doing 101 instead of 60mph by policeman and gave me notice and said to me not to do anything till I hear from them, however now its been 5 months and still haven't heard anything. is anything I can do to see if I have got away with it or not.
Sam - 13-Nov-17 @ 10:14 PM
Jmt - Your Question:
Hi. Been caught speeding for the first time. Method was a radar gun then stopped by unmarked police vehicle. Was quoted a speed I was doing but on the printed TOR report it states I was speeding in a 40 but no mention of speed. Would that sound right? No mention of speed on printed receipt?

Our Response:
The police officer willalmost certainly have evidence of the speed you were travelling at, so it will not be worth trying to dispute this.
NoPenaltyPoints - 31-Oct-17 @ 3:41 PM
Hi.Been caught speeding for the first time.Method was a radar gun then stopped by unmarked police vehicle.Was quoted a speed i was doing but on the printed TOR report it states I was speeding in a 40 but no mention of speed.Would that sound right?No mention of speed on printed receipt?
Jmt - 30-Oct-17 @ 3:18 PM
Allegedly caught doing around 52mph in a 30mph zone. Stopped by police, no paperwork issued on the day, no slips or anything. Said will get something in post. Heard nothing at all until now. Been over 2 months and now get a letter of NIP 3 points/fine or take it to court. This can't be right?
Sam - 26-Oct-17 @ 4:20 PM
Sassy - Your Question:
I was doing 47in a 40 , police officer was not indentifiable ( wearing all black on a bridge ) no signs of police car etc , does he have to be indentifiable ?? On A2070 ( 22/10/17)

Our Response:
No, lack of visibility of the speed camera is not acceptable as a defence against a speed offence.
NoPenaltyPoints - 25-Oct-17 @ 12:40 PM
I was doing 47in a 40 , police officer was not indentifiable ( wearing all black on a bridge ) no signs of police car etc , does he have to be indentifiable ?? On A2070 ( 22/10/17)
Sassy - 23-Oct-17 @ 5:38 AM
NC - Your Question:
Was driving on a country lane and the speed was 30 I was doing about 37 and came round a blind bend and there was a speed van sat there within 50 yards just up on a verge in a farmer's field I tried to brake but there was literally no time as right after the Bend, there was no signs prior each way for at least 2 miles warning of camera's will I have a case to decline it ??

Our Response:
If the road is not clearly a 30mph zone (eg. it doesn't have street lights at regular intervals), 30mph repeater zones must be placed at regular intervals. Look into that as reason to reject an NIP. The lack of visibility of the speed camera will not be accepted as a valid defence.
NoPenaltyPoints - 20-Oct-17 @ 12:59 PM
Was driving on a country lane and the speed was 30 I was doing about 37 and came round a blind bend and there was a speed van sat there within 50 yards just up on a verge in a farmer's field I tried to brake but there was literally no time as right after the Bend, there was no signs prior each way for at least 2 miles warning of camera's will I have a case to decline it ??
NC - 18-Oct-17 @ 7:44 AM
Ali - Your Question:
I drop the customer luton airport after that I was speed round 50 the speed limit was 40 I saw police was razor gun will I get ticket by post or police pull over straight away

Our Response:
If the police didn't pull you over, there is still a chance that you will receive a ticket in the post.
NoPenaltyPoints - 16-Oct-17 @ 11:54 AM
I drop the customer luton airport after that I was speed round 50 the speed limit was 40 I saw police was razor gun will I get ticket by post or police pull over straight away
Ali - 13-Oct-17 @ 3:19 PM
Elvi28 - Your Question:
I Was caught today by a gun in zone40 and I think I was46/48My tyre pressure come very low and I was looking in the dash bord and I didn't see the spead gun on the left side It's that legal to be hidden?I was on my way back from London Luton airport,it was 8pm

Our Response:
The visibility (or lack of) of the speed gun will not be considered as a reason to reject an NIP.
NoPenaltyPoints - 13-Oct-17 @ 3:15 PM
Jim - Your Question:
I was driving down a 40mph dual c/way at about 57mph, there were police with speed guns on the other side of the c/way, one facing on coming traffic and one facing the other way, there were also the large blue police enforcement cameras on both sides of road, could they catch me speeding from other side of the road? Thanks

Our Response:
Yes possibly depending on the type of cameras being used. You should hear within 14 days if you were caught on camera.
NoPenaltyPoints - 13-Oct-17 @ 11:57 AM
I Was caught today by a gun in zone40 and I think I was46/48 My tyre pressure come very low and I was looking in the dash bord and I didn't see the spead gun on the left side It's that legal to be hidden? I was on my way back from London Luton airport,it was 8pm
Elvi28 - 13-Oct-17 @ 12:02 AM
I was driving down a 40mph dual c/way at about 57mph, there were police with speed guns on the other side of the c/way, one facing on coming traffic and one facing the other way, there were also the large blue police enforcement cameras on both sides of road, could they catch me speeding from other side of the road? Thanks
Jim - 12-Oct-17 @ 6:57 AM
Paddy - Your Question:
Was driving towards a radar gun doing 54 in a 50 what are the chances of me receiving anything in the post ?

Our Response:
We really don't know. Usually the police will not take action for speeds of lower than 56mph in a 50 zone - that's not say they won't in this instance of course.
NoPenaltyPoints - 9-Oct-17 @ 2:02 PM
Was driving towards a radar gun doing 54 in a 50 what are the chances of me receiving anything in the post ?
Paddy - 8-Oct-17 @ 2:17 PM
Doing around 37/38 in a 30. Clocked by a gun, wasn’t pulled over but the officer made a 3 finger gesture to me as I passed but was under 30 at this point. Points?
Pauly - 6-Oct-17 @ 1:48 PM
emswife - Your Question:
We were caught by a hand held camera on 12 Sept doing (we think) 32 accelerating up hill in a 30 zone. Are we likely to get a ticket? Its now 2 October.

Our Response:
It's unlikely the police take action at speeds of under 34mph in a 30 zone. If the incident was on the 12th September, you are now outside the 14 day time limit in which an NIP must be issued too.
NoPenaltyPoints - 3-Oct-17 @ 3:43 PM
We were caught by a hand held camera on 12 Sept doing(we think) 32 acceleratingup hill in a 30 zone.Are we likely to get a ticket? Its now 2 October.
emswife - 2-Oct-17 @ 3:44 PM
Hi. I was on the motorway doing around 65 I overtaken two lorries went up to around 75 and I spotted a policeman with a radar gun. What happens now?
Scotty - 24-Sep-17 @ 8:44 PM
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