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Hand Held Speed Gun: Should Ticket be Issued On the Spot?

By: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 23 Oct 2017 | comments*Discuss
 
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Q.

If the police are using a hand held gun, do they need to pull you over at the time to issue you a ticket, or can they do it subsequently?

(D.U, 12 July 2009)

A.

Over the last few years, hand-held speed guns have received a pretty bad reputation for giving false readings and for being generally inaccurate and easily subverted with different tactics - each with a varying degree of success. There are so many different things that are alleged to interfere with the hand-held radar guns that there are whole internet sites devoted to them and whether they actually work or not falls into the category of urban myth.

However despite all the bad press often aimed at hand-held speed radars, they remain very popular with some local police forces who are keen to be seen using the 'hairdryer' device while standing at the side of the road.

With an average range of 600 meters, the police officers using the radar device will need to be pretty close to any passing car to take a reading - and the further away they are, the more the reading can be interfered with by different elements such as the wind speeds and road conditions. The optimum distance is thought to be around 300 meters away, so the officers will stand as close to the road they are monitoring that it is safe to do so. Generally this means that unlike some traffic cameras, if you are measured by a police radar gun it is likely that you will know it has happened.

As part of the reason for using these radar guns is to show motorists on that stretch of road that their speed is being monitored, if it is safe to stop someone who has been caught speeding and issue a Fixed Penalty Notice on the spot, then the police will usually choose this option. However it is always possible that if it is dangerous to other road users or police officers to stop an offending vehicle at the roadside, than a summons can be issued to the address of the registered keeper after the event. Because the preference is a fixed penalty, in most cases, if you aren't stopped on the spot then you're probably okay. It's not a certainty though, so if you think you might have been speeding, you'll just have to wait it out.

If you do receive a summons it will be party to the usual time restraints, and if the registered keeper or driver (if different) wish to contend the ticket or any of the details on it, then they can do so following the usual route detailed on the back of the NIP.

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I was doing 47in a 40 , police officer was not indentifiable ( wearing all black on a bridge ) no signs of police car etc , does he have to be indentifiable ?? On A2070 ( 22/10/17)
Sassy - 23-Oct-17 @ 5:38 AM
NC - Your Question:
Was driving on a country lane and the speed was 30 I was doing about 37 and came round a blind bend and there was a speed van sat there within 50 yards just up on a verge in a farmer's field I tried to brake but there was literally no time as right after the Bend, there was no signs prior each way for at least 2 miles warning of camera's will I have a case to decline it ??

Our Response:
If the road is not clearly a 30mph zone (eg. it doesn't have street lights at regular intervals), 30mph repeater zones must be placed at regular intervals. Look into that as reason to reject an NIP. The lack of visibility of the speed camera will not be accepted as a valid defence.
NoPenaltyPoints - 20-Oct-17 @ 12:59 PM
Was driving on a country lane and the speed was 30 I was doing about 37 and came round a blind bend and there was a speed van sat there within 50 yards just up on a verge in a farmer's field I tried to brake but there was literally no time as right after the Bend, there was no signs prior each way for at least 2 miles warning of camera's will I have a case to decline it ??
NC - 18-Oct-17 @ 7:44 AM
Ali - Your Question:
I drop the customer luton airport after that I was speed round 50 the speed limit was 40 I saw police was razor gun will I get ticket by post or police pull over straight away

Our Response:
If the police didn't pull you over, there is still a chance that you will receive a ticket in the post.
NoPenaltyPoints - 16-Oct-17 @ 11:54 AM
I drop the customer luton airport after that I was speed round 50 the speed limit was 40 I saw police was razor gun will I get ticket by post or police pull over straight away
Ali - 13-Oct-17 @ 3:19 PM
Elvi28 - Your Question:
I Was caught today by a gun in zone40 and I think I was46/48My tyre pressure come very low and I was looking in the dash bord and I didn't see the spead gun on the left side It's that legal to be hidden?I was on my way back from London Luton airport,it was 8pm

Our Response:
The visibility (or lack of) of the speed gun will not be considered as a reason to reject an NIP.
NoPenaltyPoints - 13-Oct-17 @ 3:15 PM
Jim - Your Question:
I was driving down a 40mph dual c/way at about 57mph, there were police with speed guns on the other side of the c/way, one facing on coming traffic and one facing the other way, there were also the large blue police enforcement cameras on both sides of road, could they catch me speeding from other side of the road? Thanks

Our Response:
Yes possibly depending on the type of cameras being used. You should hear within 14 days if you were caught on camera.
NoPenaltyPoints - 13-Oct-17 @ 11:57 AM
I Was caught today by a gun in zone40 and I think I was46/48 My tyre pressure come very low and I was looking in the dash bord and I didn't see the spead gun on the left side It's that legal to be hidden? I was on my way back from London Luton airport,it was 8pm
Elvi28 - 13-Oct-17 @ 12:02 AM
I was driving down a 40mph dual c/way at about 57mph, there were police with speed guns on the other side of the c/way, one facing on coming traffic and one facing the other way, there were also the large blue police enforcement cameras on both sides of road, could they catch me speeding from other side of the road? Thanks
Jim - 12-Oct-17 @ 6:57 AM
Paddy - Your Question:
Was driving towards a radar gun doing 54 in a 50 what are the chances of me receiving anything in the post ?

Our Response:
We really don't know. Usually the police will not take action for speeds of lower than 56mph in a 50 zone - that's not say they won't in this instance of course.
NoPenaltyPoints - 9-Oct-17 @ 2:02 PM
Was driving towards a radar gun doing 54 in a 50 what are the chances of me receiving anything in the post ?
Paddy - 8-Oct-17 @ 2:17 PM
Doing around 37/38 in a 30. Clocked by a gun, wasn’t pulled over but the officer made a 3 finger gesture to me as I passed but was under 30 at this point. Points?
Pauly - 6-Oct-17 @ 1:48 PM
emswife - Your Question:
We were caught by a hand held camera on 12 Sept doing (we think) 32 accelerating up hill in a 30 zone. Are we likely to get a ticket? Its now 2 October.

Our Response:
It's unlikely the police take action at speeds of under 34mph in a 30 zone. If the incident was on the 12th September, you are now outside the 14 day time limit in which an NIP must be issued too.
NoPenaltyPoints - 3-Oct-17 @ 3:43 PM
We were caught by a hand held camera on 12 Sept doing(we think) 32 acceleratingup hill in a 30 zone.Are we likely to get a ticket? Its now 2 October.
emswife - 2-Oct-17 @ 3:44 PM
Hi. I was on the motorway doing around 65 I overtaken two lorries went up to around 75 and I spotted a policeman with a radar gun. What happens now?
Scotty - 24-Sep-17 @ 8:44 PM
Oxford_fc - Your Question:
I got caught speeding by a speed gun and pulled over, I was doing 39 in a 30 zone, I never been done for speeding before so how long does it take to come throu the post it has been over 2 weeks now

Our Response:
If you were stopped at the scene, you will not be issued with a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) so the 14 day rule doesn't apply. You will probably receive a fixed penalty notice. These are usually issued within 28 days but the police actually have up to 6 months in which to take action.
NoPenaltyPoints - 12-Sep-17 @ 11:31 AM
I got caught speeding by a speed gun and pulled over, I was doing 39 in a 30 zone, I never been done for speeding before so how long does it take to come throu the post it has been over 2 weeks now
Oxford_fc - 10-Sep-17 @ 9:33 PM
Ad - Your Question:
Hi I have received a NIP for doing 47 in a 40 zone. I can recall the moment and there was a car in front of me that was travelling at a similar speed. Can the mobile held camera issue two tickets? I.e. Both cars get a NIP? Thanks

Our Response:
Yes it's possible to have captured both vehicles on camera.
NoPenaltyPoints - 15-Aug-17 @ 2:01 PM
Hi I have received a NIP for doing 47 in a 40 zone.I can recall the moment and there was a car in front of me that was travelling at a similar speed.Can the mobile held camera issue two tickets? I.e. Both cars get a NIP?Thanks
Ad - 13-Aug-17 @ 9:46 PM
Hi my partner received a letter from Essex plod asking the identity of who was driving as manned equipment recorded 37mph in a 33mph limit. It is not a court summons. Thank you in advance if any info helps me understand as I can't find a relative answer!
rae86 - 22-Jul-17 @ 2:03 AM
Pulled over by police after having a speed gun pointed at me, was told I was doing 72 in a 50 (I had been overtaking at the time). Was told it cannot be dealt with at the roadside due to the speed and a court summons would be sent out. They said that would be with me within 4 weeks, is there a time limit on that? I'm not familiar with this or the terminology with NIPs etc... Is it 14 days for one thing and not for others?
M1ke - 21-Jul-17 @ 1:20 PM
Hi, I was overtaking a lorry with hay on it as I was overtaking it a police officer was pointing a speed gun in my direction. It was only pointed for a second and I didn't pass it as he had turned away before I passed him. I wasn't sure of you had to pass the speed gun for it to take a reading or how long it has to be pointed to get a reading. There was also other traffic around me. I was doing about 35 In A 30
Harry - 15-Jul-17 @ 5:19 PM
Tonykel38 - Your Question:
Hi was doin 35mph coming into a 30mph I slowed down under 30mph when I noticed a policeman standing on the side with a speed gun,think the van next to me was goin faster than me,can they post a fine or if it's a speed gun game they got to stop you and issue a fine thank you

Our Response:
This depends what kind of camera was being used. Some camera can record a speed, facilitating a subsequent NIP.
NoPenaltyPoints - 6-Jul-17 @ 11:40 AM
Hi was doin 35mph coming into a 30mph i slowed down under 30mph when I noticed a policeman standing on the side with a speed gun,think the van next to me was goin faster than me,can they post a fine or if it's a speed gun game they got to stop you and issue a fine thank you
Tonykel38 - 5-Jul-17 @ 1:04 PM
Ali - Your Question:
Hi today I was doing about 40 on a 30mph road & I saw man with hivis & a black cap most likely an officer cap with a gun in hand & I think he was capturing my speed but he didn't stop me & I see a black car parked behind him with another man with same clothes who was sitting down in the car. I am not sure or they were police or if they were police why didn't they stop me ? Or is it possible to get a penalty thro post ??? I heard that police with hand gun must stop you on the scene to give penalty. just confused as I was above 40 I gues.

Our Response:
It may have been a community speedwatch. The police can and do however, capture/record speeding offenders and follow through with an NIP.
NoPenaltyPoints - 3-Jul-17 @ 11:40 AM
Hi today I was doing about 40 on a 30mph road & I saw man with hivis & a black cap most likely an officer cap with a gun in hand & I think he was capturing my speed but he didn't stop me & I see a black car parked behind him with another man with same clothes who was sitting down in the car . I am not sure or they were police or if they were police why didn't they stop me ? Or is it possible to get a penalty thro post ??? I heard that police with hand gun must stop you on the scene to give penalty ... just confused as I was above 40 I gues ...
Ali - 1-Jul-17 @ 12:48 AM
Cl - Your Question:
Hi, was traveling ona dual carridge way going into the national speed limit and started speeding up before I got into national speed, noticed a police car parked on the opposite side of the carridge way, not sure if it was parked up or with a speed gun but the car did have brake lights on, do you think ill get a fine or points or just a fine?

Our Response:
We don't know as we don't know what speed you were travelling at. If you are the registered keeper you will hear within 14 days of the incident.
NoPenaltyPoints - 30-Jun-17 @ 1:51 PM
Hi, was traveling ona dual carridge way going into the national speed limit and started speeding up before i got into national speed, noticed a police car parked on the opposite side of the carridge way, not sure if it was parked up or with a speed gun but the car did have brake lights on, do you think ill get a fine or points or just a fine?
Cl - 29-Jun-17 @ 10:09 PM
Rob - Your Question:
Was travelling at about 35 after just entering 30 mph zone. By chance notice a policeman with a handheld speed camera on the opposite side of the road. He partly concealed by a tree.Is it possible to be caught speeding by such a method, when the officer is on the other side of the road.

Our Response:
It depends on the kind of camera being used. It's not common for handheld cameras to be used on the opposite side of the road so it's unlikely your speed will have been captured at this time.
NoPenaltyPoints - 28-Jun-17 @ 10:52 AM
Was travelling at about 35 after just entering 30 mph zone. By chance notice a policeman with a handheld speed camera on the opposite side of the road. He partly concealed by a tree. Is it possible to be caught speeding by such a method, when the officer is on the other side of the road.
Rob - 26-Jun-17 @ 4:09 PM
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