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Fastest Speed Recorded for a Speeding Ticket?

By: Clare Birtles - Updated: 4 Sep 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
Traffic Officers Raf Tornado Radar

Here's a news article that has surfaced in various forms recently. We've not been able to establish whether this one is 100% true or not, but it certainly makes great reading!

If you have any experiences of your own (true ones only please) relating to motoring offences: serious; unusual or slightly humorous - do let us know and we'll consider adding them in our forthcoming readers' stories section. See the end of this article for details of how to contact us.

Fastest Speed Recorded?

When two traffic officers in Scotland were running speed checks, little did they know, they could have caused a major security incident.

The two traffic officers - using a hand held radar speed checking device, were shocked to see a recorded speed of over 300 mph for an approaching vehicle. The radar device promptly stopped working and the traffic officers could not manage to re-set it.

Radar Device Picks Up NATO Fighter Jet

It turned out that the police radar "gun" had locked on to a NATO tornado fighter jet, which had been engaged in low flying exercises over the North Sea. The local Chief Constable immediately complained to the RAF liaison officials and received the following reply:

"Thank you for your message, which allows us to complete our file on this incident. You may be interested to know that the tactical computer in the Tornado had automatically locked on to your 'hostile radar equipment' and sent a jamming signal back to it. Furthermore, the Sidewinder air-to-ground missiles aboard the fully-armed aircraft had also locked on to the target. Fortunately the Dutch pilot flying the Tornado responded to the missile status alert intelligently and was able to override the automatic protection system before the missile was launched."

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Honduras - Your Question:
I was caught for doing 60 in a 30 zone. Although this sounds excessive it was on a dual carriage way through an industrial estate. The roads were very quiet with only one other vehicle on the road at the time of the offence (and also in the photographic evidence). The camera used was in a police van and tucked away in some trees. I hear lots of talk about using the ‘cosine effect’ as a means of challenging the fine since the police van was 10-15 meters away from the edge of the carriageway but even if I reduce the speed by 2-3mph then I’m going to be liable for a band-C fine. Can I say at this point that although I was doing 60mph, this is sometimes the normal speed of traffic on this stretch of road. Nevertheless, I broke the law and I accept that.I’m considering pleading guilty by post because the paperwork tells me that if I do this then there’s a reduction the fine by 33%. Is this correct? I’m also very concerned about the fine itself. I’m a high earner which warrants me being fined a considerable amount more than someone who earns half of my income. I’ve used an online calculator and it tells me I’m going to be fined £1000…! I’m awaiting an operation for a total knee replacement in the coming months and then a further operation for the second knee early next year, would this stand as one of my mitigating circumstances? Also, am I doing the right thing by pleading guilty straight away? Thanks for taking the time to read my predicament.

Our Response:
60mph in a 30mph zone would result in a court summons. You'd really need to seek professional legal advice if you wanted to reduce the fine/penalty citing mitigating circumstances though.
NoPenaltyPoints - 10-Sep-18 @ 2:49 PM
To add to my previous comment. The mitigating comment was referring to my penalty being reduced and avoiding a driving ban, not the speed I was recorded doing.
Honduras - 4-Sep-18 @ 2:58 AM
I was caught for doing 60 in a 30 zone. Although this sounds excessive it was on a dual carriage way through an industrial estate. The roads were very quiet with only one other vehicle on the road at the time of the offence (and also in the photographic evidence). The camera used was in a police van and tucked away in some trees.I hear lots of talk about using the ‘cosine effect’ as a means of challenging the fine since the police van was 10-15 meters away from the edge of the carriageway but even if I reduce the speed by 2-3mph then I’m going to be liable for a band-C fine. Can I say at this point that although I was doing 60mph, this is sometimes the normal speed of traffic on this stretch of road. Nevertheless, I broke the law and I accept that. I’m considering pleading guilty by post because the paperwork tells me that if I do this then there’s a reduction the fine by 33%. Is this correct? I’m also very concerned about the fine itself. I’m a high earner which warrants me being fined a considerable amount more than someone who earns half of my income. I’ve used an online calculator and it tells me I’m going to be fined £1000…! I’m awaiting an operation for a total knee replacement in the coming months and then a further operation for the second knee early next year, would this stand as one of my mitigating circumstances? Also, am I doing the right thing by pleading guilty straight away? Thanks for taking the time to read my predicament.
Honduras - 4-Sep-18 @ 2:53 AM
I was caught on one of the smart motorway system couple weeks ago.I do not deny the alleged offence as I can not recall the actual drive however I had just received some paperwork in which I was accused of some serious false accusations (going through a messy divorce) and so I had just arranged an appointment with a solicitor and was just trying to figure out what I had to do and these serious allegations needed to be addressed ASAP to avoid having long lasting implications on my livelihood.I was under severe stress andexceeded the limit unknowingly. i am hoping that these mitigating circumstances can be used to appeal the ticket and hope for some leniency. as I literally received the paperwork that afternoon and so was understandably very upset and needed to talk to the solicitor regarding this). how do I go about appealing this? I can not risk losing my licence or being banned as it will also affect my ability to see my children as wife (ex) lives far away and I am also in the middle of the legal paperwork for the divorce etc.
KK - 29-Aug-18 @ 12:11 PM
Anil - Your Question:
I have received NIP for speeding at M1 J18-J17 southbound for driving at the speed of 75 mph at temporary restricted 60 mph motorway. I am certain that the temporary speed speed sign was appeared after I passed the sign. I have checked the evidence and it says time since the aspect change was 0d 00h 01min. Is there anyway I can challenge this NIP ? Also the notice was originally sent to my partners name as she is the registered keeper of the car. She has sent my correct name but the notification sent is spell incorrectly. Is this another ground for appeal ?

Our Response:
The spelling will not be sufficient reason to challenge this. You need to find out what the "grace" period is on the speed change...we understand from Highways Agency information that this is 60 seconds but we don't have concrete evidence of this.
NoPenaltyPoints - 25-Jul-18 @ 2:09 PM
I have received NIP for speeding at M1 J18-J17 southbound for driving at the speed of 75 mph at temporary restricted 60 mph motorway.I am certain that the temporary speed speed sign was appeared after I passed the sign. I have checked the evidence and it says time since the aspect change was 0d 00h 01min.Is there anyway I can challenge this NIP ? Also the notice was originally sent to my partners name as she is the registered keeper of the car. She has sent my correct name but the notification sent is spell incorrectly. Is this another ground for appeal ?
Anil - 22-Jul-18 @ 11:55 PM
speed camera was fired at a wall and clocked it at 5mph
Dave - 19-Jul-18 @ 11:14 AM
Bo - Your Question:
What are the frequencies for calibration of smart motorway automatic camera devices? Are they calibrated at all?

Our Response:
We don't have the technical details of this sorry.
NoPenaltyPoints - 13-Jun-18 @ 12:41 PM
What are the frequencies for calibration of smart motorway automatic camera devices? Are they calibrated at all?
Bo - 9-Jun-18 @ 5:55 PM
Maci - Your Question:
Got caught going 59 in a 50 zone by an automatic camera at A2 rochester way relief road nr Well Hall rd SE9 to A2 rochester way nr Old Bexley land of Slip DA5 and offered me a national speed awareness scheme. Is it too late to ask for photographic evidence if I have accepted the course? and what is a automatic camera device? thanks

Our Response:
Once you've accepted the penalty or course, you cannot appeal. An automatic camera device refers to the speed camera that captured you speeding.
NoPenaltyPoints - 27-Apr-18 @ 2:36 PM
Got caught going 59 in a 50 zone by an automatic camera at A2 rochester way relief road nr Well Hall rd SE9 to A2 rochester way nr Old Bexley land of Slip DA5 and offered me a national speed awareness scheme. Is it too late to ask for photographic evidence if i have accepted the course? and what is a automatic camera device? thanks
Maci - 24-Apr-18 @ 11:07 PM
never had speeding fine or anything else in 36 yrs of driving ....in 2 weeks got 2 speed fines in same place and same camera, 47 mph in a 40 and 49 mph in a 40 on the M32, did not see any signs or cameras and was totally unaware of this 40 mph speed limit ... now faced with 2 x £100 fines and potentially 9 points on my license, I'm totally devastated.. should I go to court and plead my innocent as I feel I didn't deliberately cause an offence ... can anybody help me with some advice on what to do ?? thanks in advance x
T - 15-Mar-18 @ 11:52 PM
I was given 6 points and 800 fine for not showing up to court but I didn't get letter as moved address how do I appeal?
Tnt - 20-Feb-18 @ 11:11 AM
sidewinders are air to air missiles..
sidewinder - 4-Feb-18 @ 5:30 PM
Simple Sailor - Your Question:
Hi,I was prosecuted for 36 mph in a 30 mph limit but when I asked for the photo it showed another vehicle immediately behind mine and although most of my number plate is visible the other vehicle is clearly in the image. ACPO guide 2004 states that any reading where there are multiple vehicles has to be disregarded - but Dorset police are adamant that rule only applies to radar cameras and not lasers - although that is not what it says!! Do I appeal?????

Our Response:
Many cameras in operation are not affected by proximity of other vehicles, so you would have to know the type of camera and to consult an expert (motoring lawyer etc) to prove your position on this. You must be prepared to argue your case in court as the police don't have the powers to address this.
NoPenaltyPoints - 29-Jan-18 @ 11:35 AM
Hi, I was prosecuted for 36 mph in a 30 mph limit but when I asked for the photo it showed another vehicle immediately behind mine and although most of my number plate is visible the other vehicle is clearly in the image. ACPO guide 2004 states that any reading where there are multiple vehicles has to be disregarded - but Dorset police are adamant that rule only applies to radar cameras and not lasers - although that is not what it says!! Do I appeal?????
Simple Sailor - 26-Jan-18 @ 4:23 PM
kenfox - Your Question:
Just received a NIP it says I was caught by a mobile speed camera van. Its say I was on the A542 at Llandegla. No that day I was driving back from Edinburgh along the A55 which is at the closest point 20 miles away. My question is does the NIP have to give the correct place of the alleged offence.

Our Response:
Yes the NIP should state the location you were obvserved speeding. Return the form unsigned/uncompleted and write saying you are the registered keeper but were in your vehicle elsewhere at the time of the offence. If you evidence include that and state where you were at the time and that you fear your vehicle has been cloned. If the police have evidence (photographic etc) of the plates and it's not your vehicle, write to the DVLA who will append the information to the vehicle record for future reference and make consider issuing a new registration mark if there is a genuine case for it.
NoPenaltyPoints - 12-Jan-18 @ 11:54 AM
Just received a NIP it says I was caught by a mobile speed camera van. Its say I was on the A542 at Llandegla. No that day I was driving back from Edinburgh along the A55 which is at the closest point 20 miles away. My question is does the NIP have to give the correct place of the alleged offence.
kenfox - 10-Jan-18 @ 1:59 PM
Hi, I have just received a speeding fine (£100/3 Pts) for doing 27 MPH on the motorway. the variable speed was 20mph but the one before that was 40mph is there anything I can do to appeal? thanks in advance.
Adz - 10-Oct-17 @ 5:54 PM
Hi, I got caught on a lamppost type camera last year doing 48mph in a 40 mph zone on the m6 southbound. That evening I received a call from my partner saying she'd had enough of life and was going to overdose. The offence was on the 05/09/2016 and the letter I received from the ticket office was dated 12/10/2016. I was in a company vehicle, that being a Hgv class 1.
Frodo - 12-Mar-17 @ 2:16 PM
I'm challenging an alleged speeding offence. Details are as follows I drive a vehicle that has a digital tachograph. The offence was driving 44mph in a 30mph. This I dispute. The problem I have is the time of the offence my vehicle was stationary in another area at the time stamp on the NIP.. Ive already challenged this as that means the speed camera is recording inacurrate information. They can not tell me what time I was on the road in question. Only stating the time on the equipment isn't synchronised. They actually stated the equipment isn't sychronised to my vehicle time, even though my vehicle is setup to UTC/GMT and accurate to within a second. They have produced photos with the incorrect time on them. So my question is, do I have much chance of winning if I do go to court as it angers me that even though they agreed the time is wrong making their equipment inaccurate. They still insist I must go to court to contest or challenge it. If I won it would mean everyone on that day would also have a case. So I wonder if they would actually take it that far especially as they have already agreed their equipment was wrong. Most people just pay these without question, but if I've alreday proven time was wrong is it not a good reason to challenge.. ???
Breck - 2-Feb-17 @ 5:59 PM
Bembers - Your Question:
My dad is a HGV driver and was issued with a speeding fine from a fixed speed camera for doing 35mph in a 30mph zone. However, my dad is adamant he was not speeding (having used the same road for 50 years and knowing full well where the speed cameras are). He wrote back and enclosed a copy of his lorries tachograph which clearly shows him doing 28mph at the time the penalty notice states he was doing 35mph. The response received was that he would need to take them to court. Some initial advice has suggested this could cost £'000s so is not really a route he wants to take.Is there anything else that can be done in this situation where we have clear evidence which disputes the speed which the fixed penalty notice states was being done?

Our Response:
Unfortunately this is how the system works. It might be worth shopping around to see if there's a solicitor near you who offers the first half hour consultation free of charge. That way you will get a clearer idea of whether an appeal is likely to succeed. To be honest if he's certain he wasn't speeding, has some evidence towards that and his job involved driving (where clean licence is more necessary) then it might be worth going ahead with it.
NoPenaltyPoints - 26-Jan-17 @ 2:34 PM
My dad is a HGV driver and was issued with a speeding fine from a fixed speed camera for doing 35mph in a 30mph zone. However, my dad is adamant he was not speeding (having used the same road for 50 years and knowing full well where the speed cameras are). He wrote back and enclosed a copy of his lorries tachograph which clearly shows him doing 28mph at the time the penalty notice states he was doing 35mph. The response received was that he would need to take them to court. Some initial advice has suggested this could cost £'000s so is not really a route he wants to take. Is there anything else that can be done in this situation where we have clear evidence which disputes the speed which the fixed penalty notice states was being done?
Bembers - 25-Jan-17 @ 9:02 AM
I have been issued a speeding fine for doing 35 miles on a 30mph zone.However the time is incorrect as I was parked and at the back of a class room at the time of the alleged offence.How do I contest as I cant fil in the statements on the form
PMR - 17-Jan-17 @ 8:09 PM
Been Caught doing 38 in a 30 zone the Van was parked literally at a Junction that is for cars coming on to the road I was caught on. Is this grounds for challenging the fine or not?
fontfarm01 - 17-Jan-17 @ 6:06 PM
Hi. I have received Notice to intended prosecution Letter as I am accused of speeding, doing 69 in 60mph variable speed limit on the M1N. I clearly remember there was a lady who overtook me who was driving excessively. I was in the middle lane in a van and she was in the fast lane. Is there any way I can appeal this? We both crossed the speed check area at the same time, just 2 separate speeds. Is it worth appealing?
Taz - 3-Jan-17 @ 8:49 PM
susie - Your Question:
Recieved nip saying I was doing 38 in a 30 zone it was a hand held device on the 12/12/16 I looked at the calibration certificate online it was done on 1st of june and is due again 31st may 2017 so is still in date but what are the chances of it going wrong and being out in six months. I know I am at the top end of the limit to be offered the speed awareness course so cant decide wether to dispute it or not I am 50 years old been driving since 17 and never had a speeding fine before im devestated but not sure I trust the accuracy of the hand held ones but cant afford to dispute and go to court please help

Our Response:
The limits for 30 mph zone are 35 to 42 for a course...so if the police so choose, you are eligible for a course. The alternative is 3 points plus £100 fine. To be honest it's probably not worth challenging on the basis of a badly calibrated camera - even it was proved to be out by a few mph, you'll still be found guilty of speeding.
NoPenaltyPoints - 20-Dec-16 @ 2:45 PM
recieved nip saying i was doing 38 in a 30 zone it was a hand held device on the 12/12/16 i looked at the calibration certificate online it was done on 1st of june and is due again 31st may 2017 so is still in date but what are the chances of it going wrong and being out in six months. i know i am at the top end of the limit to be offered the speed awareness course so cant decide wether to dispute it or not i am 50 years old been driving since 17 and never had a speeding fine before im devestated but not sure i trust the accuracy of the hand held ones but cant afford to dispute and go to court please help
susie - 19-Dec-16 @ 8:17 PM
I've received a speeding NIP for speeding at 37 on 30 limit zone. Funny thing is I just had a speed awareness course for another speeding NIP this year April. I have requested a photographic evidence and calibration certificate and they have send me the picture which looks like I was speeding just few yards before national speed limit sign although there was a car in front of me. There wasn't any sign of 30 speed limit from 1/4 miles before national limit. Also it's very odd to have a national speed limit at single carriage from 30 limit. Do I have a defence ?
Nafiz - 7-Dec-16 @ 11:42 PM
Andy - Your Question:
Because of temporary road works (3 months) the 40mph sign has been blanked over and so in theory becomes 30mph, no advance warning was issued for the road, and no new 30mph sign was displayed, after going through a mobile speed camera at 40mph, am I likely to be issued with a fine and points. 40 years with a clean licence and not even a parking ticket!!!

Our Response:
There's a strong chance you will receive something, although there's occasionally a grace period with these things (where a longstanding speed limit has changed and no signage has been erected).
NoPenaltyPoints - 7-Dec-16 @ 12:07 PM
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