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Running a Red Light

Author: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 5 July 2011 | Comment
 
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The majority of people caught ‘jumping’ a red light are caught out by the dreaded yellow peril: a safety camera. If a vehicle is snapped going through a red light, then the registered keeper can expect to receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) through the post within 14 days of the alleged offence.

I got a ‘Conditional Offer’ – What Does this Mean?

Many straightforward offences of this nature are dealt with by way of a conditional offer of a Fixed Penalty Notice. This means that a form is sent out alongside the NIP that asks the registered keeper to name the driver at the time the offence was committed. Essentially, it asks them to provide an admission of guilt, and in return, offers a fixed penalty charge rather than a trip to court.

How Much is it Going to Cost Me?

Currently, the minimum penalty for failing to stop at a red light is a £60 fine and 3 penalty points, but if you believe you have mitigating circumstances, or that the penalty has been issued incorrectly, you do have the right of appeal.

One of the most common routes of appeal against this type of offence comes under the Paragraph 4 – Unsure of Driver clause. This means that the registered keeper doesn’t know who was driving the car at the time the offence was committed. This is what the Road Traffic Act 1988 has to say about it:

Section 172 (Paragraph 4) Road Traffic Act 1988; section 172(2(a)) : the person keeping the vehicle shall give such information as to the identity of the driver as he may be required to give by or on behalf of a chief officer of police.

It Then Goes on to Say:

(4) A person shall not be guilty of an offence by virtue of paragraph (a) of subsection (2) above if he shows that he did not know and could not with reasonable diligence have ascertained who the driver of the vehicle was.

What does this mean in English? Basically it means that you have to have made a reasonable effort in trying to figure out who was driving the car. What ‘reasonable diligence’ is, is open to debate by the court – if it gets that far, and most cases don’t!

What Do I do Next?

Respond in writing to the ticket office telling them that you aren’t sure who was driving the car at the time, give your reasons, and request a copy of the photographic evidence. Make sure that you do this in plenty of time and send any correspondence by recorded delivery.

Once the photographs arrive you will know if the driver is identifiable. Often, the photographs are of very poor quality and sometimes they are taken from the rear of the vehicle so you still cannot tell who is driving the car.

If the photographic evidence is inconclusive it is debatable whether or not you should sign the NIP, as it is effectively an admission of guilt and could potentially be brought up against you as such if the case goes to court.

I Still Can’t Tell Who Was Driving?

In this case what you should do is write a letter explaining that, despite your best endeavours, you are unable to identify the driver. Explain that both drivers have seen the images, but neither of them are clear as to which it actually is. Include the following sentence (or similar):Under section 172 of the Road Traffic 1988, I have a responsibility to determine to the best of my ability who was driving the vehicle at the time the offence was committed. As required by 172(4), I have exercised reasonable diligence, but am still unable to ascertain who it is that was driving the car. Include the names/addresses of any potential drivers and word the letter in a friendly, but firm, tone.

Why Would this Work?

It would be difficult for a magistrate to convict a registered keeper who has been seen to do everything in their power to ascertain who was driving the car. After all, if you have done everything you can to figure out who was driving, and they can’t prove otherwise, how can they reasonably convict you?

If you do decide to go ahead to challenge the penalty in court, do remember that if things don’t go your way, the Magistrate will determine any fine and/or penalty points awarded. They can increase the fine and the number of penalty points that go onto your licence just as easily as they can reduce them – and you might also end up having to pay the court costs, too.

Gaining Legal Advice

If you have been charged with a driving offence, you should take advice from a solicitor. Read our article Driving Offences And Legal Representation for more information.

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Comments...

Hi recently i have got a camera Flash and have been so worried there was a car which pulled out in front so i started to slow down but the. I saw that the car behind me was so close to my car so i had to Accelerate this made me just go over the res light do you reckon i can appeal if so what shall i say thank u
Mesam - 30 December 2011 @ 12:05 AM
I was going through the busy town centre and the light was green , then a van started to pull out of the side road which is just at the lights. So I stopped to miss him. after a few choice words I pulled off but the light had gone red. I didn't notice at the time but I got a ticket. can I appeal?
jv - 23 November 2011 @ 2:02 PM
I have been given a ticket from an offence that took place in a company van. I've seen the photograph and there is no view of the driver. There are 10 other drivers and I have not been given evidence that the driver was me. What can I do?
SP - 15 November 2011 @ 1:02 PM
How do you appeal running a red if it's the traffic cops saying you did, I was over the line and watched the light change from amber to red
wtf - 16 May 2011 @ 11:55 PM
Can anyone confirm if this has worked for them? Will it need to go to court?
marco - 22 April 2011 @ 10:29 AM
The rental car company know who rented the car and i can't imagine many taxi cab lease companies not recording the same details.
Fin - 18 April 2011 @ 11:50 PM
What if the the ticket was issued to a rental car or taxi cab, the actual driver never receives the summon and is unable to go for a hearing because the summon is not in their name?
epitome - 14 April 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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