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Conditional Offers and Alternatives to Points

By: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 12 Aug 2017 | comments*Discuss
 
Conditional Offer Penalty Points Paying

If you are unlucky enough to find yourself charged with a motoring offence you might end up with a fine, penalty points or disqualification, which could be issued in the form of 'on-the-spot' fines or fixed penalty notices.

Conditional Offers

There may be situations where you are offered a conditional offer notice. Conditional offer notices work a very similar way to fixed penalty notices, in that they allow motorists to take the option of Accepting a Fixed Penalty rather than taking the matter to court.

It is Important to Note the Following:

  • You must produce your license within 28 days
  • If the conditions on the notice are not met in the time limit, the fixed penalty will not be registered as a fine, but a summons can then be issued.
  • The procedure for dealing with these notices is different in England and Wales than it is in Scotland, so make sure you read what the information says on the notice.

What do I do to Accept the Conditional Offer?

If you want to accept the offer you must send in your payment together with your driving license to the magistrate's court. If you have a photo card license you must send in both parts - the photo card and paper part of the license. If you have lost your driving licence then you need to obtain a new one from the DVLA, but by law you must still respond to the offer within 28 days. You should write to the Safety Camera Partnership to request that suspension of the process is considered due to these circumstances.

Driving Awareness Courses

In many areas of the UK, an alternative to Penalty Points and paying fines comes in the shape of driver awareness courses.

Across the country there are special courses or workshops designed to instruct drivers and raise their awareness of their actions on the road. Concentrating on education rather than punishment, the courses are designed to improve driving skills, attitude and behaviour for the safety of motorists and other road-users. They vary from area to area, but on the whole they tend to be similar. If you are eligible to attend one you will be informed via letter from the issuing authority and recent figures show that of those offered these alternatives, almost 100% are taking this option. You will have to pay for the course, which will usually be priced at a little more than the fine incurred originally, but any penalty points related to the offence will not be added to your license.

Some Examples of the Courses Offered

  • Speed Awareness Workshop - Urban Roads:This workshop is available to drivers who have been caught doing between 35-42 mph in a 30mph zone and 46-53mph in a 40mph zone. Classroom based the course lasts two and a half hours and costs around £80 - £100 which is paid instead of the £100 fine and three penalty points.
  • Speed Awareness Workshop - Faster Roads:This is for drivers detected doing between 57-64mph in a 50mph zone, between 68-75mph in a 60mph and between 79-86mph in a 70mph. The course is classroom based, lasts two and a half hours.
  • Red Light Camera Course:For drivers who have been caught Going Through a Red Light, this half-day theory based course runs for 3.5 hours. Those eligible will be contacted by the police once they have had their Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) and by agreeing to attend the course they agree to participate and successfully complete the course which includes:

Attendees to the course must:

  • Attend all of the theory sessions
  • Complete all course paperwork
  • Make a positive contribution to the course
  • Demonstrate a willingness to improve their driving

The course is provided by a team of specially trained Department for Transport Approved Driving Instructors, costs £60.00, and must be paid in full 3 weeks prior to attending. It can be taken as an alternative to penalty points.

Several authorities also operate workshops designed for people who have been caught out using their mobile phone while driving. The penalty for using a mobile phone while driving is three penalty points on your license, a fine of £60 - £1000 for private car drivers. Drivers can opt to take the workshop as an alternative to the both fine and the points.

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Mima - Your Question:
Hi my daughter of 21 has just been issued with a speeding fine. 35mph in a 30mph zone in our village. She did an awareness course earlier this year. What can be done. As I guess her insurance will go up. Is there any way of getting off this?Thanks

Our Response:
Not that we know of. Sometimes the police will decide to take no further action after the issue of an NIP (or has she already been issued with a Fixed Penalty? It's not clear from your comment) at a speed of 35 in a 30. Other than that she may have to take the points and simply be extra cautious in the next few years - clearly she didn't learn from the Speed Awareness Course.
NoPenaltyPoints - 14-Aug-17 @ 2:35 PM
Hi my daughter of 21 has just been issued with a speeding fine. 35mph in a 30mph zone in our village. She did an awareness course earlier this year. What can be done. As i guess her insurance will go up. Is there any way of getting off this? Thanks
Mima - 12-Aug-17 @ 10:46 AM
Not that wise - Your Question:
Hi,I have received a letter for 54 in a 40, I'm aware this is outside the limit for speed awareness, will it be 6 points?Thank you

Our Response:
More than 3 points are usually only imposed if the case goes to court. The general recommendations are that a summons would be issued at speeds of over 65mph in a 40 zone, so you might avoid going to court. If that were the case you might just receive a fixed penalty fine £100 plus 3 points. If the case were to go court the recommendations for that speed is currently: a band B fine (75% to 125% of your weekly income) and 4 to 6 points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 11-Aug-17 @ 10:42 AM
Nick - Your Question:
It's nick again, would you recommend getting a solicitor to represent me in that case? And if so do you know any affordable priced ones?

Our Response:
It might be worth asking advice at least from a motoring lawyer, it will not prevent a penalty but it may help you keep your licence.
NoPenaltyPoints - 11-Aug-17 @ 10:35 AM
Hi, I have received a letter for 54 in a 40, I'm aware this is outside the limit for speed awareness, will it be 6 points? Thank you
Not that wise - 10-Aug-17 @ 3:58 PM
It's nick again, would you recommend getting a solicitor to represent me in that case? And if so do you know any affordable priced ones?
Nick - 10-Aug-17 @ 2:57 PM
Nick - Your Question:
Hi, I've been caught doing 51 in a temporary 30 zone. Usually 70. I also already have 6 points. How likely is it that I will be able to take a short term ban and avoid any points on my license so that I don't face a topping up ban. My original 6 points aren't speed related and I've never been caught speeding before. Thanks nick.

Our Response:
We really can't say what a judge will say in this instance sorry.
NoPenaltyPoints - 10-Aug-17 @ 2:24 PM
Hi, I've been caught doing 51 in a temporary 30 zone. Usually 70. I also already have 6 points. How likely is it that I will be able to take a short term ban and avoid any points on my license so that I don't face a topping up ban. My original 6 points aren't speed related and I've never been caught speeding before. Thanks nick.
Nick - 10-Aug-17 @ 12:51 PM
Mrs A.- Your Question:
My husband has notice of intended prosecution, exceeding a variable speed limit, 66 mph in a 50 zone. No tickets before other than parking (paid). Could he lose his licence?

Our Response:
66mph in a 50 zone is above the recommended guidelines for the offer of a speed awareness course but it's unlikely it will result in a court summons. The most likely penalty with be a £100 and 3 penalty points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 7-Aug-17 @ 1:57 PM
laemchabang - Your Question:
I have been sent a letter, I was doing 42 in a 30? Could I be offered a speed awareness course? My last speeding fine was 7/8 years ago.

Our Response:
You might just be lucky enough to be offered a course instead of points plus a fine, but it is right at the upper limit of the guidelines. Courses are offered at the discretion of the police, so nothing is certain.
NoPenaltyPoints - 7-Aug-17 @ 11:46 AM
My husband has notice of intended prosecution, exceeding a variable speed limit, 66 mph in a 50 zone. No tickets before other than parking (paid). Could he lose his licence?
Mrs A. - 4-Aug-17 @ 11:36 AM
I have been sent a letter, i was doing 42 in a 30? Could I be offered a speed awareness course? My last speeding fine was 7/8 years ago.
laemchabang - 3-Aug-17 @ 1:38 PM
Don - Your Question:
Hi, when a person has committed a band b speeding violation, does the person have to attend court? And how is the process of going to court and how do they calculate the fine? From payslips? Regards

Our Response:
You can attend court or you can plead guilty and not attend...seek legal advice on this. Band B fines are 75% to 125% of your weekly income and you can expect to receive between 4 and 6 penalty points. The income will be calculated from your payslips or from HMRC records.
NoPenaltyPoints - 2-Aug-17 @ 2:44 PM
Hi, when a person has committed a band b speeding violation, does the person have to attend court? And how is the process of going to court and how do they calculate the fine? From payslips? Regards
Don - 31-Jul-17 @ 3:45 PM
Don - Your Question:
I received a NIP in post for doing 72 in a 50 dual carriageway. I have been on a road safety Course in 2015 for missing red light.can I go on the speed awareness course?

Our Response:
Even though the course you've already does is less than 3 years ago, because it's for a different offence ordinarily it wouldn't rule out the offer of a speeding course. HOWEVER, you will not be offered a speed awareness course for a speed of 72mph in a 50 zone. The upper limit is 64mph.
NoPenaltyPoints - 31-Jul-17 @ 2:46 PM
I received a NIP in post for doing 72 in a 50 dual carriageway. I have been on a road safety Course in 2015 for missing red light.can I go on the speed awareness course?
Don - 28-Jul-17 @ 4:57 PM
Jamie - Your Question:
Hi,I've stupidly been caught for speeding twice in 10 days (nothing for 15 years), but luckily I've been offered a workshop course on both.The first was 36 in a 30 and second was 73 in a variable motorway limit of 60.Reading the terms of the workshop course I can only do one in 3 years, so which one should I choose?I'd like to take the course on the 73 mph motorway offence, because it seems to me to be the worse of the two.But, does anyone have a valued input on this or any advice ?Thank you!

Our Response:
It probably won't make much difference which course you take. The fine/penalty points alternatives will be the same for each offence. Unless any of our readers have a different opinion?
NoPenaltyPoints - 24-Jul-17 @ 12:14 PM
Hi, I've stupidly been caught for speeding twice in 10 days (nothing for 15 years), but luckily I've been offered a workshop course on both. The first was 36 in a 30 and second was 73 in a variable motorway limit of 60. Reading the terms of the workshop course I can only do one in 3 years, so which one should I choose? I'd like to take the course on the 73 mph motorway offence, because it seems to me to be the worse of the two. But, does anyone have a valued input on this or any advice ? Thank you!
Jamie - 17-Jul-17 @ 4:19 PM
Hello, i was doing 57 in a 50 zone and i donthave no point on my license. i had done speed awareness before and i believe is still under two years.
wala - 15-Jul-17 @ 5:42 PM
hi I've been caught doing 65 in a 50mph section of the M4 in wales. already been on a speed awareness course over 2 years ago I believe it was but just seen the fines have gone up since April 2017 and now I 'm concerned i'll be hit with a huge fine please could you advise cheers
blackburn85 - 13-Jul-17 @ 4:11 PM
Hello, I was caught by speed camera van for doing 39mph in 30mph z= one. That's the first time I have issued fixed penalty.=20 Firstly is it possible for me to go for a course instead of points. If yes h= ow can I do that? Secondly speed camera van was parked on a bend just around 300 meter max fro= m 60mph to 30mph changing zone. Sign for speeding camera van was 5 meters fr= om the Van and it was on the ground. Does it help anyway? That's my first ever speeding offence. Please help. Best Regard's Ahsan Afzal
Ahsan - 7-Jul-17 @ 10:31 PM
Help - Your Question:
I have sent my information back with my driving licence number on, How long does it take to receive something back as I did this over 2 week ago?

Our Response:
There is no set time limit - it can take several weeks though.
NoPenaltyPoints - 7-Jul-17 @ 2:39 PM
Jobluebird - Your Question:
I have had a driving licence over 30 years never had a fine, penalty points or conviction in all that time. Got a letter saying I was doing 39 in a 30 zone, as it was an area I'd never driven in before I guess I was just unlucky, seems a bit harsh. I guess I will get a fine and points?

Our Response:
Yes it's usually £100 plus 3 penalty points. You may be also be offered a speed awareness in place of the points/fine, but these are offered purely that discretion of the police.
NoPenaltyPoints - 7-Jul-17 @ 2:34 PM
I have sent my information back with my driving licence number on, How long does it take to receive something back as I did this over 2 week ago?
Help - 6-Jul-17 @ 8:52 PM
I have had a driving licence over 30 years never had a fine, penalty points or conviction in all that time.Got a letter saying I was doing 39 in a 30 zone, as it was an area I'd never driven in before I guess I was just unlucky, seems a bit harsh . I guess I will get a fine and points?
Jobluebird - 6-Jul-17 @ 7:42 PM
Kamykhan - Your Question:
Got caught doing 45 in a 30 first time had my license for over 10 years. Any chance of them giving me the benefit of the doubt

Our Response:
It's unlikely that no action will be taken if you were doing 45 in a 30. It's also slightly above the usual limit to be offered a speed awareness course but you might just be lucky. The alternative will be 3 penalty points and £100 fine.
NoPenaltyPoints - 27-Jun-17 @ 11:58 AM
Help - Your Question:
Hello. I am 22 years old and have been driving almost 4 years. I have never had any driving convictions or attended a course. I was caught doing 45mph in a 30 mph zone. Stupid I know, I never speed so this is typical I was caught running late for work. Do you think there is a chance I may get offered a speed awareness course? I know it's slightly over what they count as eligibility. I am worried sick, mortified and disgusted with myself. Thanks x

Our Response:
It's fairly unlikely that you'll be offered a course since as you say, you were travelling above the recommended upper limiti for a course. It's more likely that you will be given 3 penalty points and £100 fine instead.
NoPenaltyPoints - 26-Jun-17 @ 2:39 PM
Got caught doing 45 in a 30 first time had my license for over 10 years. Any chance of them giving me the benefit of the doubt
Kamykhan - 25-Jun-17 @ 2:59 AM
Hello. I am 22 years old and have been driving almost 4 years. I have never had any driving convictions or attended a course. I was caught doing 45mph in a 30 mph zone. Stupid I know, I never speed so this is typical I was caught running late for work. Do you think there is a chance I may get offered a speed awareness course? I know it's slightly over what they count as eligibility. I am worried sick, mortified and disgusted with myself. Thanks x
Help - 23-Jun-17 @ 10:19 PM
Confused - Your Question:
I was notified that I was caught doing 70 mph on the M25 (variable speed limit 60mph) and whilst I can't contest that why was I not offered a driver education course as I met all the criteria for one?

Our Response:
Not everyone is offered the course. They are offered at the discretion of the police, we don't know why sometimes they're offered and other times they're not...sorry.
NoPenaltyPoints - 14-Jun-17 @ 12:50 PM
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