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Conditional Offers and Alternatives to Points

By: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 19 Oct 2017 | comments*Discuss
 
Conditional Offer Penalty Points Paying

If you are unlucky enough to find yourself charged with a motoring offence you might end up with a fine, penalty points or disqualification, which could be issued in the form of 'on-the-spot' fines or fixed penalty notices.

Conditional Offers

There may be situations where you are offered a conditional offer notice. Conditional offer notices work a very similar way to fixed penalty notices, in that they allow motorists to take the option of Accepting a Fixed Penalty rather than taking the matter to court.

It is Important to Note the Following:

  • You must produce your license within 28 days
  • If the conditions on the notice are not met in the time limit, the fixed penalty will not be registered as a fine, but a summons can then be issued.
  • The procedure for dealing with these notices is different in England and Wales than it is in Scotland, so make sure you read what the information says on the notice.

What do I do to Accept the Conditional Offer?

If you want to accept the offer you must send in your payment together with your driving license to the magistrate's court. If you have a photo card license you must send in both parts - the photo card and paper part of the license. If you have lost your driving licence then you need to obtain a new one from the DVLA, but by law you must still respond to the offer within 28 days. You should write to the Safety Camera Partnership to request that suspension of the process is considered due to these circumstances.

Driving Awareness Courses

In many areas of the UK, an alternative to Penalty Points and paying fines comes in the shape of driver awareness courses.

Across the country there are special courses or workshops designed to instruct drivers and raise their awareness of their actions on the road. Concentrating on education rather than punishment, the courses are designed to improve driving skills, attitude and behaviour for the safety of motorists and other road-users. They vary from area to area, but on the whole they tend to be similar. If you are eligible to attend one you will be informed via letter from the issuing authority and recent figures show that of those offered these alternatives, almost 100% are taking this option. You will have to pay for the course, which will usually be priced at a little more than the fine incurred originally, but any penalty points related to the offence will not be added to your license.

Some Examples of the Courses Offered

  • Speed Awareness Workshop - Urban Roads:This workshop is available to drivers who have been caught doing between 35-42 mph in a 30mph zone and 46-53mph in a 40mph zone. Classroom based the course lasts two and a half hours and costs around £80 - £100 which is paid instead of the £100 fine and three penalty points.
  • Speed Awareness Workshop - Faster Roads:This is for drivers detected doing between 57-64mph in a 50mph zone, between 68-75mph in a 60mph and between 79-86mph in a 70mph. The course is classroom based, lasts two and a half hours.
  • Red Light Camera Course:For drivers who have been caught Going Through a Red Light, this half-day theory based course runs for 3.5 hours. Those eligible will be contacted by the police once they have had their Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) and by agreeing to attend the course they agree to participate and successfully complete the course which includes:

Attendees to the course must:

  • Attend all of the theory sessions
  • Complete all course paperwork
  • Make a positive contribution to the course
  • Demonstrate a willingness to improve their driving

The course is provided by a team of specially trained Department for Transport Approved Driving Instructors, costs £60.00, and must be paid in full 3 weeks prior to attending. It can be taken as an alternative to penalty points.

Several authorities also operate workshops designed for people who have been caught out using their mobile phone while driving. The penalty for using a mobile phone while driving is three penalty points on your license, a fine of £60 - £1000 for private car drivers. Drivers can opt to take the workshop as an alternative to the both fine and the points.

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Pringy - Your Question:
I have just received a speeding letter and was doing 66 in a 50 it is my first driving offence would it be 3 point and fine or would a driving awerness course be a option? Many Thanks

Our Response:
66 in a 50 zone is usually consider too fast to be offered a speed awareness course. It's most likely you will receivefixed penalty of £100 plus 3 points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 20-Oct-17 @ 11:59 AM
Hi, i have been caught by the same temporary 50 zone camera for the third time in a short period. I have had a drivers awareness course recently and taken points and also taken a fine but have dissapointingly recieved a third fine. Is there any way i can pay a higher fine instead of taking another 3 points? Could i plead my case in court to do this?
Morsy - 19-Oct-17 @ 10:29 PM
I have just received a speeding letter and was doing 66 in a 50 it is my first driving offence would it be 3 point and fine or would a driving awerness course be a option? Many Thanks
Pringy - 17-Oct-17 @ 9:46 PM
worried - Your Question:
I ran through the red light yesterday, I think I passed the white line when it was green but it changed to red light when I was half way through so I must have passed it in amber. I am a new driver what is likelihood of me being offered awareness course rather then 3 point on my licence.

Our Response:
We can't say what the penalty will be.As you say, the standard fixed penalty is 3 point plus £100 fine, but the police do have the discretion to offer a drive awareness course as an alternative.
NoPenaltyPoints - 17-Oct-17 @ 10:19 AM
I ran through the red light yesterday, I think I passed the white line when it was green but it changed to red light when I was half way through so I must have passed it in amber. I am a new driver what is likelihood of me being offered awareness course rather then 3 point on my licence.
worried - 16-Oct-17 @ 9:53 AM
Dan Young - Your Question:
Hi I been caught doing 48 in a 30 what happens under the new rules

Our Response:
You may be receive a fixed penalty of 3 points plus £100 fine, but there's a possibility a court summons might be issued. If so, the recommended penalty is a band B fine (75-125% of your weekly income) and 4 - 6 penalty points or a 7 - 28 day ban.
NoPenaltyPoints - 11-Oct-17 @ 10:36 AM
Hi, I’ve recently been caught doing 44mph in 30 mph speed limit on an A road. This is my first speeding or traffic offence of any kind. What is the likely outcome? Will I be summonsed to court?
Matty B - 11-Oct-17 @ 9:18 AM
Jimmy - Your Question:
I have just been caught doing 66mph in a 40mph what happens next

Our Response:
It's likely you will receive a court summons for this. It's just above the upper limit to be given a fixed penalty. The recommended penalty if the case goes to court is a band C fine (150% of your weekly income) and 6 points, you might also be given a 7- 56 day ban.
NoPenaltyPoints - 10-Oct-17 @ 11:07 AM
Big Ed - Your Question:
I may have been caught by a speed detection Van at 34mph just when the roadSpeed allows you 30. I did reduce my speed imm.about 100 meters before the Van to 30.Would I been detected and is so would it be likely to get a improvement course offered

Our Response:
We can't say whether you'll be offered a speed awareness course as these are given at the discretion of the police. 34mph is within the suggested guidelines to be offered a course.
NoPenaltyPoints - 10-Oct-17 @ 10:17 AM
Hi I been caught doing 48 in a 30 what happens under the new rules
Dan Young - 9-Oct-17 @ 6:13 PM
I have just been caught doing 66mph in a 40mph what happens next
Jimmy - 7-Oct-17 @ 11:00 AM
I may have been caught by a speed detection Van at 34mph just when the road Speed allows you 30. I did reduce my speed imm.about 100 meters before the Van to 30. Would I been detected and is so would it be likely to get a improvement course offered
Big Ed - 7-Oct-17 @ 6:52 AM
Philc - Your Question:
I was flashed by a fixed speed camera on the M4 last week. The camera is in the over head gantry, I travel on that road every day and am fully aware of it's location. This particular junction is normally subject to variable spped limits. This particular day 60 was indicated on all three lanes, I dropped my speed and the driver in lane 1 did the same. I went through the speed trap at 57 mph alone with the driver slightly in front and inside me. We were both flashed. We both gave each other a confused look as we went along side each other. Sure enough I have now received a NIP stating that I was travelling at 57 mph in a 50 mph zone. I am 100% sure that 60 mph was indicated as the variable speed limit. What are my options please?

Our Response:
We're afraid you may need professional legal representation on this. If you reject/appeal it, you will have to testify in court. You may be able to get logs of the cameras etc but we're not sure how this works. A motoring lawyer will know the ins and outs. You're not the first person to have asked, so we'll be interested to see how you get on.
NoPenaltyPoints - 4-Oct-17 @ 3:45 PM
Hirju.cristian - Your Question:
Hi. I have passed the red light right after the yellow one. Everything happened so quick. I got flashed. Two years ago I attended a speed awereness course. Is there any chance to have some Red light course now? Thanks a lot.

Our Response:
Having done a speed awareness course should not prevent the offer of an awareness course for the red light incident. These courses are all offered at the discretion of the police however, so we can't say for sure.
NoPenaltyPoints - 2-Oct-17 @ 11:16 AM
Hi. I have passed the red light right after the yellow one. Everything happened so quick. I got flashed. Two years ago I attended a speed awereness course. Is there any chance to have some Red light course now? Thanks a lot.
Hirju.cristian - 29-Sep-17 @ 12:52 AM
I was flashed by a fixed speed camera on the M4 last week. The camera is in the over head gantry, I travel on that road every day and am fully aware of it's location. This particular junction is normally subject to variable spped limits. This particular day 60 was indicated on all three lanes, I dropped my speed and the driver in lane 1 did the same. I went through the speed trap at 57 mphalone with the driver slightly in front and inside me. We were both flashed. We both gave each other a confused look as we went along side each other. Sure enough I have now received a NIP stating that I was travelling at 57 mph in a 50 mph zone. I am 100% sure that 60 mph was indicated as the variable speed limit. What are my options please?
Philc - 26-Sep-17 @ 4:35 PM
Womble - Your Question:
Ive been caught by a fixed camera 43 in a thirty.what is the likely outcome. Thanks

Our Response:
You are just over the limit to be offered a speed awareness course so the most likely outcome will be £100 fine and 3 penalty points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 25-Sep-17 @ 2:56 PM
Bob - Your Question:
I am confused, you say above that band B is usually a fine of a week's pay, but in other examples of band B offenses such as Amy's 56 in a 40 limit, you say the fine is likely to be £100 ? please clarify. Thanks.

Our Response:
No...if the case goes to court the "banding" system applies. If a fixed penalty is issued the standard fine of £100 plus 3 points applies. Here's the response relating to the band B fine:
"More than 3 points are usually only imposed if the case goes to court. The general recommendations are that a summons would be issued at speeds of over 65mph in a 40 zone... If the case were to go court the recommendations for that speed is currently: a band B fine (75% to 125% of your weekly income) and 4 to 6 points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 25-Sep-17 @ 2:09 PM
Ive been caught by a fixed camera 43 in a thirty...what is the likely outcome. Thanks
Womble - 23-Sep-17 @ 8:42 AM
I am confused, you say above that band B is usually a fine of a week's pay, but in other examples of band B offenses such asAmy's 56 in a 40 limit,you say the fine is likely to be £100? please clarify. Thanks.
Bob - 22-Sep-17 @ 10:57 PM
Hi, I have just been caught doing 62mph in a 40mph zone, (Warrington / Cheshire area) by a camera van, to be honest I wasn’t paying attention after a long day, Road was clear and dry conditions. I have no points and held my licence for 22 years, what do you think the outcome will be?
Bennybiceps - 21-Sep-17 @ 6:10 PM
N77TRU - Your Question:
Have 3 points already Just been told I was doing 42mph in a 30mph. (Static camera)Live in Devon. What are my chances of being offered a speed awareness course? 3 points will not affect me but an extra 6 points will put me out of work! What are my options? Really concerned as I've heard D&C police are strict.??

Our Response:
42mph in a 30 is more likley to attract 3 points and £100 fine. It's just at the upper limit of the guidelines for a Speed Awareness course too, so there's a small chance you may be offered a course.
NoPenaltyPoints - 18-Sep-17 @ 2:20 PM
Hi I was in traffic but was pass the lights in my view i.e. To left or right as the car in front pulled off I also pulled off then I noticed the car behind didn't there is a red light camera but will it still be classed as going through the red light even though I was still when passed it was green then turning red while in traffics
Jay - 16-Sep-17 @ 11:27 PM
Have 3 points already Just been told I was doing 42mph in a 30mph. (Static camera) Live in Devon. What are my chances of being offered a speed awareness course? 3 points will not affect me but an extra 6 points will put me out of work! What are my options? Really concerned as I've heard D&C police are strict.....??
N77TRU - 16-Sep-17 @ 9:07 PM
amy - Your Question:
I got caught doing 56mph in a 40mph by a camera van what is the likely penalty will I be offered a speed awareness course?

Our Response:
You are just above the upper limit in the guidelines to be offered a speed awareness course. You will probably be given £100 fine and 3 penalty points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 11-Sep-17 @ 2:43 PM
I got caught doing 56mph in a 40mph by a camera van what is the likely penalty will I be offered a speed awareness course?
amy - 10-Sep-17 @ 2:01 PM
I was caught doing 35 in a 30 zone. I recieved a hundred pound fine. I was unaware that I had to send my license off now I am being threatened with 6 points which will see me get banned. I will lose my job and my family will suffer as a result. Plz help
Giz - 6-Sep-17 @ 2:21 PM
Sam Lowery - Your Question:
I got pulled over by a unmarked county car doing a average 42 in a 30 what will I get

Our Response:
This is just at the upper limit of the guidelines for the offer of a speed awareness course, but you may be lucky (this is entirely up to the police). If a course is not offered, the likely penalty will be £100 fine plus 3 penalty points.
NoPenaltyPoints - 6-Sep-17 @ 12:48 PM
I got pulled over by a unmarked county car doing a average 42 in a 30 what will I get
Sam Lowery - 4-Sep-17 @ 7:03 PM
My 20 year old son got found speeding at 87 in a 70. This is his first offence what would be the likely outcome?
Sharon - 1-Sep-17 @ 10:15 AM
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