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Conditional Offers and Alternatives to Points

By: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 16 Jun 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
Conditional Offer Penalty Points Paying

If you are unlucky enough to find yourself charged with a motoring offence you might end up with a fine, penalty points or disqualification, which could be issued in the form of 'on-the-spot' fines or fixed penalty notices.

Conditional Offers

There may be situations where you are offered a conditional offer notice. Conditional offer notices work a very similar way to fixed penalty notices, in that they allow motorists to take the option of Accepting a Fixed Penalty rather than taking the matter to court.

It is Important to Note the Following:

  • You must produce your license within 28 days
  • If the conditions on the notice are not met in the time limit, the fixed penalty will not be registered as a fine, but a summons can then be issued.
  • The procedure for dealing with these notices is different in England and Wales than it is in Scotland, so make sure you read what the information says on the notice.

What do I do to Accept the Conditional Offer?

If you want to accept the offer you must send in your payment together with your driving license to the magistrate's court. If you have a photo card license you must send in both parts - the photo card and paper part of the license. If you have lost your driving licence then you need to obtain a new one from the DVLA, but by law you must still respond to the offer within 28 days. You should write to the Safety Camera Partnership to request that suspension of the process is considered due to these circumstances.

Driving Awareness Courses

In many areas of the UK, an alternative to Penalty Points and paying fines comes in the shape of driver awareness courses.

Across the country there are special courses or workshops designed to instruct drivers and raise their awareness of their actions on the road. Concentrating on education rather than punishment, the courses are designed to improve driving skills, attitude and behaviour for the safety of motorists and other road-users. They vary from area to area, but on the whole they tend to be similar. If you are eligible to attend one you will be informed via letter from the issuing authority and recent figures show that of those offered these alternatives, almost 100% are taking this option. You will have to pay for the course, which will usually be priced at a little more than the fine incurred originally, but any penalty points related to the offence will not be added to your license.

Some Examples of the Courses Offered

  • Speed Awareness Workshop - Urban Roads:This workshop is available to drivers who have been caught doing between 35-42 mph in a 30mph zone and 46-53mph in a 40mph zone. Classroom based the course lasts two and a half hours and costs around £80 - £100 which is paid instead of the £100 fine and three penalty points.
  • Speed Awareness Workshop - Faster Roads:This is for drivers detected doing between 57-64mph in a 50mph zone, between 68-75mph in a 60mph and between 79-86mph in a 70mph. The course is classroom based, lasts two and a half hours.
  • Red Light Camera Course:For drivers who have been caught Going Through a Red Light, this half-day theory based course runs for 3.5 hours. Those eligible will be contacted by the police once they have had their Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) and by agreeing to attend the course they agree to participate and successfully complete the course which includes:

Attendees to the course must:

  • Attend all of the theory sessions
  • Complete all course paperwork
  • Make a positive contribution to the course
  • Demonstrate a willingness to improve their driving

The course is provided by a team of specially trained Department for Transport Approved Driving Instructors, costs £60.00, and must be paid in full 3 weeks prior to attending. It can be taken as an alternative to penalty points.

Several authorities also operate workshops designed for people who have been caught out using their mobile phone while driving. The penalty for using a mobile phone while driving is three penalty points on your license, a fine of £60 - £1000 for private car drivers. Drivers can opt to take the workshop as an alternative to the both fine and the points.

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Hi I have been caught probably with around 34mph in a 20 zone. Didn't pay attention to the signs and my speed downhill. My licence is new. And never had a problem before. It is very bad right? :(
Elizabeth7 - 16-Jun-18 @ 5:49 PM
jimbob - Your Question:
Hi bit of a long post but I'm at my Witt's end with worry hope someone can help. Right I was driving along a road in area im not from but my partner is I had come to a junction stopped at the lights waited for it to go green and went on my way but instead of going straight ahead on the junction like your supposed to I done a left turn wich isnt allowed and in doing that ive gone through a red light without realising till after my partner says your meant to go on straight ahead by then it was to late ibahd allready made the turn now my problem is I already have 6 points on my license from a conviction I had over 3 years ago before I passed my test now these points are due off this year but im worried I wont be offered the red light awarness course but given 3 points and loose my lisence along with my job I have rung tge police on 101 and explained my situation and the lady said it sounds like I should be offered one but im still worried.

Our Response:
We really can't say whether you'll be offered a course or not unfortunately, as these are always offered at the discretion of the police.
NoPenaltyPoints - 12-Jun-18 @ 3:39 PM
Hi bit of a long post but I'm at my Witt's end with worry hope someone can help. Right i was driving along a road in area im not from but my partner is i had come to a junction stopped at the lights waited for it to go green and went on my way but instead of going straight ahead on the junction like your supposed to i done a left turn wich isnt allowed and in doing that ive gone through a red light without realising till after my partner says your meant to go on straight ahead by then it was to late ibahd allready made the turn now my problem is i already have 6 points on my license from a conviction I had over 3 years ago before i passed my test now these points are due off this year but im worried i wont be offered the red light awarness course but given 3 points and loose my lisence along with my job i have rung tge police on 101 and explained my situation and the lady said it sounds like i should be offered one but im still worried.
jimbob - 11-Jun-18 @ 12:29 PM
I have recently booked to do a speed awareness course next month to avoid points. Today I think a camera flashed as I went through an amber light that turned red as I went though. If i was flashed, do I have a chance of being offered a red light course or will the fact I'm already booked up to do a speed awareness course make me ineligible? I know you can't do more than one 'speed' awareness course in 3 years but I don't know if you can't do more than one course full stop?
Dan - 31-May-18 @ 10:50 PM
I have completed a course a couple of months back for going through a red light. I now have a ticket through for exceeding the speed limit, they have offered me to do a course but am I able to?
Esse - 30-May-18 @ 6:56 PM
I was caught doing 67mph on a road (A13) that is usually 70mph, but it has a temporary speed limit of 50mph due to roadworks. The roadworks take place during the night. What will I receive? I'm scared I'll get 6 points and lose my license as I've only been driving a year.
Hannah - 27-May-18 @ 10:52 AM
Hello I have got a letter for doing 40 in a 30 already done a course it was unfortunate as my sat nav was indicating the road was 40 ( sat nav now in bin ) what will my penalty be
Caz - 23-May-18 @ 1:52 PM
I got caught doing 68 in a 50mph average speed check zone on a motorway. No convictions for 8 years. What am I likely to receive? Will I be eligible for a speed awareness course? I drive this route everyday and am worried I will receive another ticket. I always make a conscious effort to watch my speed but when you drive in rush hour on the motorway the traffic moves together!
Emily123 - 22-May-18 @ 10:04 PM
Bot - Your Question:
I got caught doing 45 in a 30 zone no previous convictions what is my likely points and fine?

Our Response:
The most likely outcome will be a fixed penaltyof 3 points plus £100 but as it's only 5 mph away from a court summons, do not completely rule this out.
NoPenaltyPoints - 22-May-18 @ 3:45 PM
bigbry - Your Question:
I've 9 points already and 6 clear on the 12th July 2018. I've got caught doing 35 on a 30 zone. I've received the letter back saying I can pay £100 and get 3 points but wouldn't I still have to go to court?

Our Response:
You accept the fixed penalty but under the totting up rule, you will lose your licence.
NoPenaltyPoints - 22-May-18 @ 3:41 PM
Hi I have accidently paid for the conditional offer. I assumed it was the number for the course due to me having yhe offer of cousre. i now want to revert this. I know i would not get a refund, but I seriously want to aboid the fixed penalty of 3points. Is there anyway I can cjange this and book a couse i stead or is it too late.
Aj - 17-May-18 @ 2:50 PM
I got caught doing 45 in a 30 zone no previous convictions what is my likely points and fine?
Bot - 16-May-18 @ 7:28 PM
I've 9 points already and 6 clear on the 12th July 2018.I've got caught doing 35 on a 30 zone.I've received the letter back saying I can pay £100 and get 3 points but wouldn't I still have to go to court?
bigbry - 16-May-18 @ 6:42 PM
Anglocloggie - Your Question:
I have a speeding ticket for exceeding a variable speed limit on the M4 it says "Junction 27 to 26 E/B Gwent 60 3 ", I was doing 80mph, it does not say what the speed limit was. What band does that come in the speeding fines.I live outside the UK and have an other EU licence, any use?

Our Response:
The NIP doesn't have to state the speed limit, but could the part that states Gwent 60 3 mean the speed limit was 60mph and you passed it by 3 seconds? If so the likely penalty will be £100 fine plus 3 penalty points (although the points may not be relevant if you live in another country that doesn't have mutual arrangement with UK)
NoPenaltyPoints - 14-May-18 @ 1:58 PM
Caitbrienne - Your Question:
I have received a notice of intended prosecution for the alleged offence of exceed 60 variable speed on a motorway. I was doing 72mph there was no signs or anything to say variable speed limit. What will be my outcome of this?

Our Response:
If you decide to appeal you will need to appear in court and will have to provide evidence that there were no variable speed signs in place. The Highways Agency may have a record of the times and dates when variable speeds were in operation and cameras/signs activated. If signs were in place but you didn't see them, this is no defence. It's advisable to seek professional legal representation in this kind of situation.
NoPenaltyPoints - 14-May-18 @ 12:49 PM
Adam - Your Question:
I was caught doing 79 in a 70 where the limit for a van is 60 (i wasnt aware of this). Road was a38. What is the likely outcome? I have been driving less than 2 years. First offence.Thanks

Our Response:
This will be treated as 79 in a 60 as you were driving a vehicle to which the 60mph limited applied. You probably won't eligible for a speed awareness course but it's unlikely it will be deemed a court summons offence. So the most likely penalty will be £100 plus 3 points on your licence.
NoPenaltyPoints - 14-May-18 @ 11:54 AM
I have a speeding ticket for exceeding a variable speed limit on the M4 it says "Junction 27 to 26 E/B Gwent 60 3 ", I was doing 80mph, it does not say what the speed limit was. What band does that come in the speeding fines. I live outside the UK and have an other EU licence, any use?
Anglocloggie - 14-May-18 @ 7:13 AM
I have received a notice of intended prosecution for the alleged offence of exceed 60 variable speed on a motorway. I was doing 72mph there was no signs or anything to say variable speed limit. What will be my outcome of this?
Caitbrienne - 13-May-18 @ 7:37 PM
I was caught doing 79 in a 70 where the limit for a van is 60 (i wasnt aware of this). Road was a38. What is the likely outcome? I have been driving less than 2 years. First offence. Thanks
Adam - 13-May-18 @ 3:25 PM
stef - Your Question:
My husband received an offer to do a speed awareness course. We have booked him on a course but now cannot find the paperwork with the offer and don't know how to tell the police that hew has accepted the offer of the course and booked it - anyone know what he's supposed to do?

Our Response:
Contact the course provider. You should be able to find them easily (if you found them to make the booking). Sometimes the course provider will inform the police but don't rely on this.
NoPenaltyPoints - 9-May-18 @ 3:43 PM
Th - Your Question:
I got caught doing 60mph in a 30mph zone by a speed camera.I’ve only had my license for 1 year, will I get my lisence taken off me? it’s my first offence.

Our Response:
You will certainly receive a court summons and because the likely penalty is 6 points your licence will be temporarily revoked even if you aren't given a ban.
NoPenaltyPoints - 9-May-18 @ 3:30 PM
My husband received an offer to do a speed awareness course. We have booked him on a course but now cannot find the paperwork with the offer and don't know how to tell the police that hew has accepted the offer of the course and booked it - anyone know what he's supposed to do?
stef - 9-May-18 @ 1:07 PM
I got caught doing 60mph in a 30mph zone by a speed camera. I’ve only had my license for 1 year, will I get my lisence taken off me? it’s my first offence.
Th - 9-May-18 @ 12:30 PM
MT - Your Question:
I have received an NIP from the police. I am a driver of 10 years with no convictions. I was doing 43 in a 30 zone. Is it likely I will be offered the speed safety course? I was 1 mile over threshold.Thanks

Our Response:
We can't say what the police will decide but as you pointed out, you are over the guideline threshold for the offer of a speed awareness course. The alternative is lilke to be 3 points plus £100 fine.
NoPenaltyPoints - 8-May-18 @ 3:11 PM
Dave - Your Question:
I was caught by a police speed camera, he said I was doing 52, it was on a 30 road in london, what could be the outcome of this? It's my first offence.

Our Response:
If you were caught travelling at 52mph in a 30 mph area, you will receive a court summons where the likely penalty will be a band C fine (150% of net weekly income) plus 6 points and a possible ban of 7 to 56 days.
NoPenaltyPoints - 8-May-18 @ 12:15 PM
I have received an NIP from the police. I am a driver of 10 years with no convictions. I was doing 43 in a 30 zone. Is it likely I will be offered the speed safety course? I was 1 mile over threshold. Thanks
MT - 6-May-18 @ 6:08 PM
I was caught by a police speed camera, he said I was doing 52, it was on a 30 road in london, what could be the outcome of this? It's my first offence.
Dave - 6-May-18 @ 1:33 AM
Billy - Your Question:
Hi I have received a letter for having no insurance which I thought I was insured to drive via my fully comp Insurance , what I want to know is it worth going to court as I it’s a genuine misunderstanding mistake , my car was in garage and I took my wife’s car assuming I was insured but I got stopped by the police and car was siezed , now I have a letter stating I will get 6 points and 300 fine need advice Should I go court will I get anywhere , I got insurance on my wife’s car few days later

Our Response:
Unfortunately ignorance is no defence. Normally spouses will discuss this kind of thing between them etc. It's unlikely a court appeal would be successful.
NoPenaltyPoints - 4-May-18 @ 2:34 PM
Hi there, I have just received a letter saying a fixed camera has captured me driving at 35mph in a 30 zone. Just wondered what penalty am I likely to receive and if there is anything I can do about it? Thanks :-)
Loolah66 - 3-May-18 @ 5:16 PM
Hi I have received a letter for having no insurance which I thought I was insured to drive via my fully comp Insurance , what I want to know is it worth going to court as I it’s a genuine misunderstanding mistake , my car was in garage and I took my wife’s car assuming I was insured but I got stopped by the police and car was siezed , now I have a letter stating I will get 6 points and 300 fine need advice Should I go court will I get anywhere , I got insurance on my wife’s car few days later
Billy - 3-May-18 @ 9:52 AM
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